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Why is that? What's wrong with Rails?

• panzerboy 2mo ago
  It's made by DHH.
  • BoumTAC 2mo ago
    The DHH hate is absolutely crazy on HN. I don't understand how people can be so out of touch.
    • owebmaster 2mo ago
      Do you think DHH is out of touch too?
    • panzerboy 2mo ago
      I don't hate the guy (I don't know him personally so I cannot hate him), I just disagree with his opinions and I personally don't want to use anything that he makes or endorses. Easy as that. I know that there are other people contributing to Rails, and that's their choice. Other people stopped contributing once DHH showed his true nature.
      • 0x4d4c 2mo ago
        I presume, that you're not shopping anything on shopify?
        • panzerboy 2mo ago
          Good question, I don't know. I usually buy stuff online from a few big websites that are specific to my country.
    • _old_dude_ 2mo ago
      It's not hate, it's not wanted to be associated with: see https://victorwynne.com/dhh/ https://victorwynne.com/dhh/
      • rob 2mo ago
        I need to go look up the CEO of my refrigerator, dishwasher, couch, car, cell phone, TV, shirt and jeans, and oat milk to see if they said anything I disagree with on social media so I can boycott them.
        • jasoncartwright 2mo ago
          Do they have prominent blogs that are good to read to keep up in the industry you work in?
        • zbentley 2mo ago
          I mean, that might not be the worst thing? Like, if you have something you regularly spend a lot of money on, it might be worth spending 2min on the Wikipedia article about it’s manufacturer to verify that it’s not made by child slaves or someone who sends all their profits to the KKK or whatever. Doing that seems like basic prudence for an interconnected world, and a far cry from like … digging around Reddit threads looking for reasons to be outraged. I have no opinion on DHH. I do think it’s good, actually, that lots of people are incorporating politics into their product use/purchase choices these days. Those decisions always had political consequences, so it’s good that people are now considering that. Some people definitely have rubrics for making those decisions that I think are stupid, and some people do it dishonestly (e.g. performative public outrage over a random OSS contributor’s transphobic tweet while spending money on Harry Potter shit). But the fact that people are increasingly considering the social context of product use is still good, dumbasses would find other ways to be dumb regardless.
          • zbentley 2mo ago
            Update: I read DHH’s blog. I now have an opinion on DHH: not good.
        • mystifyingpoi 2mo ago
          Unironically, AI could automate the boycott.
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    • sylario 2mo ago
      I did not really knew why DHH was controversial until a few month ago. He was heavily promoting the en translation of an old super far right french book. It is from the 70's and it is absurdly far right when you look up who wrote it and who promoted it in France at that time. He is probably at a KKK level of racism.
  • 0x4d4c 2mo ago
    And great bunch of other, awesome people. I can take an argument of not buying a Tesla in order to avoid supporting Elons financial empire, but not using Rails because DHH made it is really hard to comprehend.
    • owebmaster 2mo ago
      Why is it hard? Elon got all the power he wanted. Not giving DHH the same free passes Elon got is a very reasonable take.
      • 0x4d4c 2mo ago
        And boycotting open source project is the way to go?
        • brazukadev 2mo ago
          why not? there are so many available.
  • Nextgrid 2mo ago
    Some people are just looking to be offended. You don’t have to read or agree with his drivel to use his software. (Do you also check out the blogs/social media of every dev involved in every library you use?)
    • majorchord 2mo ago
      > You don’t have to read or agree with his drivel to use his software. No, but a lot of people choose to, and I don't claim to know if one way or the other is more right or righteous. But I think boycotts wouldn't exist in the first place if everyone could separate the art from the artist. And since there's lots of boycotts in the world, I think it's safe to say that it's at least socially acceptable to boycott companies or people with practices you don't like. Who are we to say they're wrong for it?
  • cryo32 2mo ago
    Actually I didn't know he was a prick. I'm not sure he is either - I haven't checked. I just really really don't like Ruby or Rails. Ruby is like someone mashed up python and perl whilst on cocaine one day.