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> The pretext is that his travel to another state was assumed to be to buy weed. [...] > Unless they have direct evidence [...] it's a pre-crime judgment. But
by dataflow 2mo ago
> The pretext is that his travel to another state was assumed to be to buy weed. [...]
> Unless they have direct evidence [...] it's a pre-crime judgment.
But how does it being pre-crime judgment etc. imply it is a pretext too?
Just look up the definition:
- A pretext is "a false reason given to hide the real motivation behind an action." [1]
- A pretextual stop is "pull(ing) people over for minor rule violations [...] as an excuse to conduct a search and go fishing for other crimes." [2]
Notice it says "false", "hide", and "other crime"? And not merely "bad reason" to "serve as an excuse" to "search for any crime"?
Here, they appear to have done exactly what they claimed they their intentions were, and as a result discovered exactly what they suspected. Is anyone disputing this? If this was a "pretext", then what the heck are we alleging were their "real" motivations and "other" crimes? How could they have possibly been more honest in their intentions?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretext https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretext
[2] https://www.policingproject.org/pretextual-traffic https://www.policingproject.org/pretextual-traffic
- rglover 2mo agoAs far as I understand, the real motivation was to catch him for a warrant but using the presumption (false until proven with evidence beyond his car traveling between states) of him buying weed and transporting it across state lines as their pretext.
- dataflow 2mo agoAre you saying they already had a warrant for his arrest but needed an excuse other than a warrant to pull him over? That makes... no sense? Or are you saying they wanted to catch him and then use whatever they found as a warrant to search him, in which case... where does it say that, and why are you saying they would have wanted to do that if the weed itself wasn't the reason? Or are you saying something else entirely? I'm not seeing anything indicating such in the article...