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That's another problem Google have: they won't stand behind their products until they are outdated. That can work in the B2C space but it's horrible in B2B.

aleph_minus_one 2mo ago
> That's another problem Google have: they won't stand behind their products until they are outdated. > That can work in the B2C space but it's horrible in B2B. My experience differs: (conservative) companies like stability, so calling some very new model "Preview" is a good idea to make it clear to the customer that this frontier model should be treated as more experimental than the default offering.
- clhodapp 2mo ago
  That's fine, but it should still have the same technical availability level
  - utopcell 2mo ago
    What makes you think it doesn't?
    - dolmen 2mo ago
      See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192851 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192851
- ethbr1 2mo ago
  The problem at Google is their (lacking) process for Preview -> GA. Maybe it's a consequence of their rigorousness around SRE, but it doesn't seem like there's a plausible and efficient path for that to happen. Ergo, the only competitive options from Google are ever-Preview products.
  - clhodapp 2mo ago
    Yup. Adopting a month-old Postgres release is quite aggressive. It's much more prudent to start considering adoption after it's had six to twelve months of battle testing. Adopting a month-old AI model version for new development is the default industry expectation right now. Adopting a six month old model is a recipe for having to migrate to a new one almost immediately, when it hits EOL.
  - ragall 2mo ago
    The process was, as we were informally told during orientation, that "Preview" means some SVP thinks this has a chance of going over the minimum threshold of 200M worldwide users and is willing to put his weight behind that product, and "GA" means the product has gone over that threshold and will be "supported" until it goes back below the threshold at which point competing SVPs will start sharpening their knives, preparing to stick them in the back of the SVP that is currently in charge of the product.

aleph_minus_one 2mo ago

> That's another problem Google have: they won't stand behind their products until they are outdated. > That can work in the B2C space but it's horrible in B2B. My experience differs: (conservative) companies like stability, so calling some very new model "Preview" is a good idea to make it clear to the customer that this frontier model should be treated as more experimental than the default offering.

clhodapp 2mo ago
That's fine, but it should still have the same technical availability level
- utopcell 2mo ago
  What makes you think it doesn't?
  - dolmen 2mo ago
    See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192851 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192851
ethbr1 2mo ago
The problem at Google is their (lacking) process for Preview -> GA. Maybe it's a consequence of their rigorousness around SRE, but it doesn't seem like there's a plausible and efficient path for that to happen. Ergo, the only competitive options from Google are ever-Preview products.
- clhodapp 2mo ago
  Yup. Adopting a month-old Postgres release is quite aggressive. It's much more prudent to start considering adoption after it's had six to twelve months of battle testing. Adopting a month-old AI model version for new development is the default industry expectation right now. Adopting a six month old model is a recipe for having to migrate to a new one almost immediately, when it hits EOL.
- ragall 2mo ago
  The process was, as we were informally told during orientation, that "Preview" means some SVP thinks this has a chance of going over the minimum threshold of 200M worldwide users and is willing to put his weight behind that product, and "GA" means the product has gone over that threshold and will be "supported" until it goes back below the threshold at which point competing SVPs will start sharpening their knives, preparing to stick them in the back of the SVP that is currently in charge of the product.