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I'm particularly annoyed with the complaint in the linked thread about the agentic-developed chess engine. > Moreover, you are giving absolutely nothing back t

I'm particularly annoyed with the complaint in the linked thread about the agentic-developed chess engine. > Moreover, you are giving absolutely nothing back to the community, which is central to open-source engine dev. You are only taking. What would that user prefer? That the developer push a PR upstream...that presumably would be shot down and the user subject to further harrassment because it would be LLM derived at minimum? It seems like a catch-22 where the only winning move is not to play. That thread also highlights the overlap between "people who are against LLM usage for coding" and "people who are very particular about AGPL."

zapataband1 2mo ago
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- minimaxir 2mo ago
  This repo is all "stolen code regurgitated by an LLM" so that is an impossible task and therefore makes the request performative.
  - anematode 2mo ago
    My implicit request, which I should have made clearer, was for him to delete (or make private) the repository and move on to greater ideals.
    - KingMob 2mo ago
      Why not request that the public chess boards/lists/ranking sites disqualify coda, or break it out into an AI-allowed/only category? That's both more honest, and probably more fruitful.
      - boomlinde 2mo ago
        > That's both more honest In what way is it more honest?
        KingMob 2mo ago
        Because what they're asking for is that another person shutter their personal hobby, but what they actually want is for that person's hobby to not affect them by showing up on ranking sites.
        boomlinde 2mo ago
        > Because what they're asking for is that another person shutter their personal hobby. Their personal hobby insofar it involves violating F/OSS licenses, for a reminder of context. > but what they actually want is for that person's hobby to not affect them by showing up on ranking sites. How have you determined that?
boomlinde 2mo ago
> the only winning move is not to play Presumably no one is forcing the maintainer at gunpoint to have an LLM slightly shake up other people's code, relicense it under an incompatible license and then claim that "every single line of code is written by Claude Code", so I don't see the issue with not playing if that's the only option. If you can't make contributions that anyone finds interesting enough to include upstream and have no plans to publish your AGPL derived code under a compatible license, you can keep your changes to yourself. Nothing lost, nothing gained, license honored.

zapataband1 2mo ago

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minimaxir 2mo ago
This repo is all "stolen code regurgitated by an LLM" so that is an impossible task and therefore makes the request performative.
- anematode 2mo ago
  My implicit request, which I should have made clearer, was for him to delete (or make private) the repository and move on to greater ideals.
  - KingMob 2mo ago
    Why not request that the public chess boards/lists/ranking sites disqualify coda, or break it out into an AI-allowed/only category? That's both more honest, and probably more fruitful.
    - boomlinde 2mo ago
      > That's both more honest In what way is it more honest?
      - KingMob 2mo ago
        Because what they're asking for is that another person shutter their personal hobby, but what they actually want is for that person's hobby to not affect them by showing up on ranking sites.
        boomlinde 2mo ago
        > Because what they're asking for is that another person shutter their personal hobby. Their personal hobby insofar it involves violating F/OSS licenses, for a reminder of context. > but what they actually want is for that person's hobby to not affect them by showing up on ranking sites. How have you determined that?

boomlinde 2mo ago

> the only winning move is not to play Presumably no one is forcing the maintainer at gunpoint to have an LLM slightly shake up other people's code, relicense it under an incompatible license and then claim that "every single line of code is written by Claude Code", so I don't see the issue with not playing if that's the only option. If you can't make contributions that anyone finds interesting enough to include upstream and have no plans to publish your AGPL derived code under a compatible license, you can keep your changes to yourself. Nothing lost, nothing gained, license honored.