> there's nothing wrong with traumatic harm or abuse because people are resilient and it doesn't matter to their well-being I know it's just a throwaway exampl

> there's nothing wrong with traumatic harm or abuse because people are resilient and it doesn't matter to their well-being I know it's just a throwaway example, but this statement isn't internally inconsistent. Traumatic harm hurts people now, it doesn't need to permanently harm them to be considered immoral. A very similar knee-jerk often occurs when people learn that parenting has very, very little effect on long-term psychological outcomes for children compared to genetics. But "parenting doesn't matter" is illogical for the same reason. "We may not hold their tomorrows in our hands but we surely hold their todays" - Judith Rich Harris > correlations between group-level variables at the level of nations or states Ecological mismatches in trauma harms is what I study, so I'll take the opportunity to shamelessly plug some of my and others' research, maybe you'll find it interesting. [0] https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2027-56641-002 https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2027-56641-002 (open at https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/9dpqu https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/9dpqu) [1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/44FD260C9AC21868E34F6FC3968421E2/S0007125000245145a.pdf/div-class-title-a-vulnerability-paradox-in-the-cross-national-prevalence-of-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-div.pdf https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/c... [2] https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2022-20702-001.pdf https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2022-20702-001.pdf [3] https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstreams/e3528534-da4d-4402-a8b5-26bd17046a71/download https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstreams/e3528534-da4d-4402-a8b5-...