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What do you mean? This is 100% open source and self-hostable! https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-os https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-os It runs

by kentonv 3mo ago

What do you mean? This is 100% open source and self-hostable! https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-os https://github.com/cloudflare/cloudflare-os It runs on the open source Workers Runtime: https://github.com/cloudflare/workerd https://github.com/cloudflare/workerd You can run it at home if you want. There's even a Home Assistant Gatekeeper.

blehn 3mo ago
I'd say better to not call it Cloudflare in that case
- kentonv 3mo ago
  The idea is actually supposed to be that Cloudflare OS is Cloudflare's internal instance, but when you deploy it for your own company, you call it "<your company> OS". The product name and logo are configurable in the admin settings. Yeah it's a little cheesy. Sorry.
mosura 3mo ago
So you can run it off the public internet with no sneaky external dependency on cloudflare, slack etc? And it would be functionally the same? With the same performance if you put enough hardware there? If so cool, and that should have been clearly in the announcement, because as it sounded it is “I am a sucker, lock me in!”
- kentonv 3mo ago
  > So you can run it off the public internet with no sneaky external dependency on cloudflare, slack etc? Yes. It even supports ollama and works decently well with some local LLMs. > And it would be functionally the same? With the same performance if you put enough hardware there? Honestly it is faster running locally. > If so cool, and that should have been clearly in the announcement, We had so many things we wanted to say, it was hard to fit them all into one story. The blog post is for an enterprise audience. My tweet thread is for the hacker audience.
  - mosura 3mo ago
    That is actually cool. Maybe it is my bubble, but the experience people are having with Anthropic particularly is motivating a big “get this stuff back under control” effort so while it may not be strategically optimal for Cloudflare the local hosting would prove more valuable to enterprises than maybe a few years back, even if presented as a backup plan.
  - edaemon 3mo ago
    Neat! How does that work with the AI Gateway portion? I see some references in the code but at a quick glance I can't tell if you can configure it to skip AI Gateway.
    - kentonv 3mo ago
      Use of Cloudflare AI Gateway is optional. In the default configuration, you just plop your Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini/Workers AI/ollama API keys into the UI and it talks to each provider directly. That said, I would recommend AI Gateway, it has a lot of nice features. :)
- upcoming-sesame 3mo ago
  You're not alone The name "cloudflare-os" by itself made me think this was heavily based on Cloudflare
nolist_policy 3mo ago
Do you have a store/list of public blueprints like sandstorm?
- kentonv 3mo ago
  Not yet, but that's an obvious direction to take things. :) I'm really excited by the idea that this platform makes it safe to use blueprints that someone else vibe coded, without worrying about whether they checked it for security bugs, etc. Basically if the app works, it works. So yeah, there absolutely should be a marketplace so everyone can try everyone else's stuff. BTW there are three blueprints installed automatically (docs, slides, sheets).
  - runtime_terror 3mo ago
    Couldn't the blueprint exfiltrate incoming data to an external location for example?
    - ocdtrekkie 3mo ago
      Blueprints shouldn't (if I know anything about Kenton) have access to the Internet/external locations without you granting it permission to.
    - kentonv 3mo ago
      The blueprint is just code, it does not include data or capabilities. It's, I suppose, possible that the agent added secrets to the code itself. Not, like, API keys -- the agent never sees those. But it could have extracted sensitive info and put it into code, perhaps? We can implement restrictions on exporting blueprints from workspaces that have seen sensitive secrets, though this might be more annoying than useful. It's a tricky balance.
  - mlrtime 3mo ago
    Another request for Home lab geeks: A Proxmox installer script. I tried going through the wizard to install, it would be nice if there was a proxmox container or vm to spin up quickly and test rather than npm or cloudflare account (which requires a $5/month workers plan).
andersonpico 3mo ago
Thank you for your work over the years, sandstorm is a really interesting and inspiring piece of software. I'll certainly try to self-host CloudflareOS.

by kentonv 3mo ago

blehn 3mo ago

I'd say better to not call it Cloudflare in that case

kentonv 3mo ago
The idea is actually supposed to be that Cloudflare OS is Cloudflare's internal instance, but when you deploy it for your own company, you call it "<your company> OS". The product name and logo are configurable in the admin settings. Yeah it's a little cheesy. Sorry.

mosura 3mo ago

So you can run it off the public internet with no sneaky external dependency on cloudflare, slack etc? And it would be functionally the same? With the same performance if you put enough hardware there? If so cool, and that should have been clearly in the announcement, because as it sounded it is “I am a sucker, lock me in!”

kentonv 3mo ago
> So you can run it off the public internet with no sneaky external dependency on cloudflare, slack etc? Yes. It even supports ollama and works decently well with some local LLMs. > And it would be functionally the same? With the same performance if you put enough hardware there? Honestly it is faster running locally. > If so cool, and that should have been clearly in the announcement, We had so many things we wanted to say, it was hard to fit them all into one story. The blog post is for an enterprise audience. My tweet thread is for the hacker audience.
- mosura 3mo ago
  That is actually cool. Maybe it is my bubble, but the experience people are having with Anthropic particularly is motivating a big “get this stuff back under control” effort so while it may not be strategically optimal for Cloudflare the local hosting would prove more valuable to enterprises than maybe a few years back, even if presented as a backup plan.
- edaemon 3mo ago
  Neat! How does that work with the AI Gateway portion? I see some references in the code but at a quick glance I can't tell if you can configure it to skip AI Gateway.
  - kentonv 3mo ago
    Use of Cloudflare AI Gateway is optional. In the default configuration, you just plop your Anthropic/OpenAI/Gemini/Workers AI/ollama API keys into the UI and it talks to each provider directly. That said, I would recommend AI Gateway, it has a lot of nice features. :)
upcoming-sesame 3mo ago
You're not alone The name "cloudflare-os" by itself made me think this was heavily based on Cloudflare

nolist_policy 3mo ago

Do you have a store/list of public blueprints like sandstorm?

kentonv 3mo ago
Not yet, but that's an obvious direction to take things. :) I'm really excited by the idea that this platform makes it safe to use blueprints that someone else vibe coded, without worrying about whether they checked it for security bugs, etc. Basically if the app works, it works. So yeah, there absolutely should be a marketplace so everyone can try everyone else's stuff. BTW there are three blueprints installed automatically (docs, slides, sheets).
- runtime_terror 3mo ago
  Couldn't the blueprint exfiltrate incoming data to an external location for example?
  - ocdtrekkie 3mo ago
    Blueprints shouldn't (if I know anything about Kenton) have access to the Internet/external locations without you granting it permission to.
  - kentonv 3mo ago
    The blueprint is just code, it does not include data or capabilities. It's, I suppose, possible that the agent added secrets to the code itself. Not, like, API keys -- the agent never sees those. But it could have extracted sensitive info and put it into code, perhaps? We can implement restrictions on exporting blueprints from workspaces that have seen sensitive secrets, though this might be more annoying than useful. It's a tricky balance.
- mlrtime 3mo ago
  Another request for Home lab geeks: A Proxmox installer script. I tried going through the wizard to install, it would be nice if there was a proxmox container or vm to spin up quickly and test rather than npm or cloudflare account (which requires a $5/month workers plan).

andersonpico 3mo ago

Thank you for your work over the years, sandstorm is a really interesting and inspiring piece of software. I'll certainly try to self-host CloudflareOS.