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"OS for work" - like, what does it mean? OS is operating system, it runs on a hardware and provides you to operate the system. I hate when companies destroy the

by fnoef 2mo ago

"OS for work" - like, what does it mean? OS is operating system, it runs on a hardware and provides you to operate the system. I hate when companies destroy the English language with vibe invented terms.

Kudos 2mo ago
If this succeeds, it's going to be in spite of its branding and marketing.
lern_too_spel 2mo ago
An operating system manages access to shared hardware (disk, CPU, memory, networking, display, etc. on a single machine OS). MS-DOS mainly handled shared access to disk via a file system abstraction, hence the name. The naming of Cloudflare OS makes sense to me.
- hashstring 2mo ago
  It doesn’t schedule tasks, doesn’t deal with physical memory, it doesn’t initialize hardware or interface with it on a low level. This is just an app that lives in user-space, nothing more. Calling this an OS is like calling Gmail an OS. It doesn’t make any sense. But since OSes are notoriously difficult to define [1], half of America added AI slop to diets that were already repulsive to begin with, regurgitates the chyme, and passionately feeds it to their peers, you may even get away with it nowadays. [1] https://os.ecci.ucr.ac.cr/slides/Andrew-S.-Tanenbaum-Modern-Operating-Systems.pdf https://os.ecci.ucr.ac.cr/slides/Andrew-S.-Tanenbaum-Modern-...
  - sintax 2mo ago
    Counter point: emacs :)
  - kentonv 2mo ago
    > It doesn’t schedule tasks, It absolutely does. > doesn’t deal with physical memory, Well it sort of does. It allocates sandboxes and schedules apps in them. It handles loading code from storage and turning it into running programs with state. > it doesn’t initialize hardware or interface with it on a low level. Instead of devices it manages interfacing with external services (Gatekeepers are like drivers). I didn't choose the name but I do think there's a fair analogy here even on a technical level.
    - palata 2mo ago
      I would have suggested CloudStorm :-). Or "COSIOS": CloudflareOS Is Not an OS.
    - hashstring 2mo ago
      Interesting points! Sent from my Gmail OS
      - flufluflufluffy 2mo ago
        xD Sent from FirefoxOS using the KeyboardOS provided by iOS on my iPhone. . . OS
    - tavavex 2mo ago
      > Instead of devices it manages interfacing with external services (Gatekeepers are like drivers). This required stretching the terminology so much that now, by your definition, any software that interfaces with anything else in a restricted/controlled manner is OS-like because that's just like interfacing with hardware. I get why they chose the word - this is marketing, they want to make it appear foundational, as a cornerstone of every interaction you do. But I don't think it's a fair comparison - the OS is the lowest level layer of any computer (barring firmware and the likes) and it manages nearly everything that happens between the user and the computer, the OS is mandatory to use the computer and it runs basically everything. This is just an app - a very sophisticated app that manages other things, but still just a layer over existing systems. If they get to call this an OS, then maybe Microsoft could call the bundle of their Office suite and all the enterprise software an OS too, I'm sure there's enough functionality, depth, features and app-driven oversight over data for it to qualify.
      - spencerflem 2mo ago
        ZOHO calls their Microsoft Office suite an OS I think. I feel like if it’s a platform app developers can target to run general purpose user facing software, it can be an OS.
    - K3UL 2mo ago
TZubiri 2mo ago
It's a thing chatgpt comes up with, like em dashes or the worde 'delve'. High clanker/vibecoder signal
kyle-rb 2mo ago
It's AI-native Microsoft SharePoint
- 6031769 2mo ago
  As those are heavily vying to be the three worst things in IT, I'll pass. Thanks for the warning!
  - kyle-rb 2mo ago
    Ok but what if I told you it's also serverless?
aitchnyu 2mo ago
Seems like an established term now. I read this months back (paraphrase): "Engineer me calls it a fully featured SaaS for X, marketing would call it an OS for X". Yet another company is called WorkOS.
revengerwizard 2mo ago
It seems to be a catch term now, since I've seen it being used by some startups
encoderer 2mo ago
Borrows from Business Operating System (BOS) - in use for decades.
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by fnoef 2mo ago

Kudos 2mo ago

If this succeeds, it's going to be in spite of its branding and marketing.

lern_too_spel 2mo ago

An operating system manages access to shared hardware (disk, CPU, memory, networking, display, etc. on a single machine OS). MS-DOS mainly handled shared access to disk via a file system abstraction, hence the name. The naming of Cloudflare OS makes sense to me.

hashstring 2mo ago
It doesn’t schedule tasks, doesn’t deal with physical memory, it doesn’t initialize hardware or interface with it on a low level. This is just an app that lives in user-space, nothing more. Calling this an OS is like calling Gmail an OS. It doesn’t make any sense. But since OSes are notoriously difficult to define [1], half of America added AI slop to diets that were already repulsive to begin with, regurgitates the chyme, and passionately feeds it to their peers, you may even get away with it nowadays. [1] https://os.ecci.ucr.ac.cr/slides/Andrew-S.-Tanenbaum-Modern-Operating-Systems.pdf https://os.ecci.ucr.ac.cr/slides/Andrew-S.-Tanenbaum-Modern-...
- sintax 2mo ago
  Counter point: emacs :)
- kentonv 2mo ago
  > It doesn’t schedule tasks, It absolutely does. > doesn’t deal with physical memory, Well it sort of does. It allocates sandboxes and schedules apps in them. It handles loading code from storage and turning it into running programs with state. > it doesn’t initialize hardware or interface with it on a low level. Instead of devices it manages interfacing with external services (Gatekeepers are like drivers). I didn't choose the name but I do think there's a fair analogy here even on a technical level.
  - palata 2mo ago
    I would have suggested CloudStorm :-). Or "COSIOS": CloudflareOS Is Not an OS.
  - hashstring 2mo ago
    Interesting points! Sent from my Gmail OS
    - flufluflufluffy 2mo ago
      xD Sent from FirefoxOS using the KeyboardOS provided by iOS on my iPhone. . . OS
  - tavavex 2mo ago
    > Instead of devices it manages interfacing with external services (Gatekeepers are like drivers). This required stretching the terminology so much that now, by your definition, any software that interfaces with anything else in a restricted/controlled manner is OS-like because that's just like interfacing with hardware. I get why they chose the word - this is marketing, they want to make it appear foundational, as a cornerstone of every interaction you do. But I don't think it's a fair comparison - the OS is the lowest level layer of any computer (barring firmware and the likes) and it manages nearly everything that happens between the user and the computer, the OS is mandatory to use the computer and it runs basically everything. This is just an app - a very sophisticated app that manages other things, but still just a layer over existing systems. If they get to call this an OS, then maybe Microsoft could call the bundle of their Office suite and all the enterprise software an OS too, I'm sure there's enough functionality, depth, features and app-driven oversight over data for it to qualify.
    - spencerflem 2mo ago
      ZOHO calls their Microsoft Office suite an OS I think. I feel like if it’s a platform app developers can target to run general purpose user facing software, it can be an OS.
  - K3UL 2mo ago

TZubiri 2mo ago

It's a thing chatgpt comes up with, like em dashes or the worde 'delve'. High clanker/vibecoder signal

kyle-rb 2mo ago

It's AI-native Microsoft SharePoint

6031769 2mo ago
As those are heavily vying to be the three worst things in IT, I'll pass. Thanks for the warning!
- kyle-rb 2mo ago
  Ok but what if I told you it's also serverless?

aitchnyu 2mo ago

Seems like an established term now. I read this months back (paraphrase): "Engineer me calls it a fully featured SaaS for X, marketing would call it an OS for X". Yet another company is called WorkOS.

revengerwizard 2mo ago

It seems to be a catch term now, since I've seen it being used by some startups

encoderer 2mo ago

Borrows from Business Operating System (BOS) - in use for decades.

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