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>No one was talking about "body count" (at least not publicly) ten years ago. Why do you think that is? Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to b

>No one was talking about "body count" (at least not publicly) ten years ago. Why do you think that is? Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins, while today's young men seem to consider themselves lucky if their girl is still in single figures. Things have changed, people are talking about it.

quickthrowman 2mo ago
> Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins Lol yeah, and fetishes were invented in the 1950s. Very few people in history made it to marriage as virgins.
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  - hackyhacky 2mo ago
    > that would still make them a unicorn in the dating market nowadays. Are you having trouble in the dating market? Perhaps you're frustrated by frequently meeting women who are experienced enough to recognize your inadequacy. The solution is to improve yourself, not to shame women.
    - codedokode 2mo ago
      But aren't you also "count-shaming" parent comment for preferring women with specific number of previous partners? Maybe they are not the only one frustrated. Also, in Muslim countries and regions it is typically expected for a woman to have zero previous partners to get married, or at least having relationship only within a marriage.
      - hackyhacky 2mo ago
        > But aren't you also "count-shaming" parent comment I prefer the term "misogyny-shaming." > Also, in Muslim countries Really, Muslim countries? Muslim countries that are world-famous for denying women even basic legal rights? Muslim countries that treat women strictly as men's property? You're telling me that those same countries have strong cultural norms about controlling women's sexuality? I am truly shocked.
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      - hackyhacky 2mo ago
        > There's no shortage of promiscuous young women, but there are so few wives nowadays that it all feels rather pointless. Do you know the definition of "wife"? It's a married woman. There are plenty of women who are willing to be married, but one of two things is preventing that: (a) you are disqualifying them for silly and capricious reasons, or (b) they are disqualifying you because you're a misogynist who thinks you're entitled to dictate what women do with their bodies before they've even met you. > Yes, everyone is. Plainly false. > I've had my fair share of women in the sack. The more I listen to you, the more clear it is to me why you can't find a partner.
BigTTYGothGF 2mo ago
> Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins They also walked ten miles uphill (both ways) to school every day.
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  - hackyhacky 2mo ago
    > was as ran through as your typical young woman you'll find on the apps nowadays? I'm not saying you are one, but using this kind of language really makes you sound like a full on incel misogynist, who has sublimated his sexual frustration into antiquated paternalistic views of women's sexuality. But I'm sure that's not accurate.
    - BigTTYGothGF 2mo ago
      > I'm not saying you are one I'll say it.
    - rhrhfjfjjr44 2mo ago
      I wonder if there is a word for this strategy of "he said a word I didn't like therefore I will hyper-fixate on this one word, completely ignoring his entire argument while adopting an outraged and righteous tone". I could do the same for "antiquated paternalistic views of women's sexuality". Is that your way of shaming men for preferring virgins? You're fighting a losing battle there. It's innate. You can't change it. Morally weak and sexually desperate men will pretend it doesn't affect their perception of a woman but it does. It's in our DNA. The males who genuinely didn't care were killed off by natural selection.
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hackyhacky 2mo ago
> Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins, Is that what your great-grandma told you? Cultural prohibitions on discussing sexual matters didn't actual limit in pursuing sexual matters.

quickthrowman 2mo ago

> Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins Lol yeah, and fetishes were invented in the 1950s. Very few people in history made it to marriage as virgins.

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- hackyhacky 2mo ago
  > that would still make them a unicorn in the dating market nowadays. Are you having trouble in the dating market? Perhaps you're frustrated by frequently meeting women who are experienced enough to recognize your inadequacy. The solution is to improve yourself, not to shame women.
  - codedokode 2mo ago
    But aren't you also "count-shaming" parent comment for preferring women with specific number of previous partners? Maybe they are not the only one frustrated. Also, in Muslim countries and regions it is typically expected for a woman to have zero previous partners to get married, or at least having relationship only within a marriage.
    - hackyhacky 2mo ago
      > But aren't you also "count-shaming" parent comment I prefer the term "misogyny-shaming." > Also, in Muslim countries Really, Muslim countries? Muslim countries that are world-famous for denying women even basic legal rights? Muslim countries that treat women strictly as men's property? You're telling me that those same countries have strong cultural norms about controlling women's sexuality? I am truly shocked.
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    - hackyhacky 2mo ago
      > There's no shortage of promiscuous young women, but there are so few wives nowadays that it all feels rather pointless. Do you know the definition of "wife"? It's a married woman. There are plenty of women who are willing to be married, but one of two things is preventing that: (a) you are disqualifying them for silly and capricious reasons, or (b) they are disqualifying you because you're a misogynist who thinks you're entitled to dictate what women do with their bodies before they've even met you. > Yes, everyone is. Plainly false. > I've had my fair share of women in the sack. The more I listen to you, the more clear it is to me why you can't find a partner.

BigTTYGothGF 2mo ago

> Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins They also walked ten miles uphill (both ways) to school every day.

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- hackyhacky 2mo ago
  > was as ran through as your typical young woman you'll find on the apps nowadays? I'm not saying you are one, but using this kind of language really makes you sound like a full on incel misogynist, who has sublimated his sexual frustration into antiquated paternalistic views of women's sexuality. But I'm sure that's not accurate.
  - BigTTYGothGF 2mo ago
    > I'm not saying you are one I'll say it.
  - rhrhfjfjjr44 2mo ago
    I wonder if there is a word for this strategy of "he said a word I didn't like therefore I will hyper-fixate on this one word, completely ignoring his entire argument while adopting an outraged and righteous tone". I could do the same for "antiquated paternalistic views of women's sexuality". Is that your way of shaming men for preferring virgins? You're fighting a losing battle there. It's innate. You can't change it. Morally weak and sexually desperate men will pretend it doesn't affect their perception of a woman but it does. It's in our DNA. The males who genuinely didn't care were killed off by natural selection.
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hackyhacky 2mo ago

> Our great grandfathers were practically guaranteed to be marrying virgins, Is that what your great-grandma told you? Cultural prohibitions on discussing sexual matters didn't actual limit in pursuing sexual matters.