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Iowa asks? Why don't they just open a criminal investigation related to the hacking of HuggingFace?

by sam_lowry_ 2mo ago

iAMkenough 2mo ago
Brenna Bird cares more about publicity than action.
- nozzlegear 2mo ago
  Yeah, irrespective of her politics (which make up a disproportionate amount of her cases), Bird spends more time chasing the most polarizing issues she can find than actually helping Iowans.
cautiouscat 2mo ago
I’m not a lawyer. However it probably comes down to jurisdiction.
cestith 2mo ago
It’s actually Iowa leading a coalition of 15 other states making demands. It’s not a prosecution yet, but they demand the preservation of evidence. They’ve promised to protect whistleblowers. They are saying there may be criminal or civil liability involved. They gave them a cease and desist on similar testing until they can show they can do it safely. The Iowa-led coalition is joined by the attorneys general of Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, and Utah. The letter’s last paragraph reads: OpenAI has an obligation to act responsibly and to follow State and federal laws that protect Americans’ safety and security. When OpenAI takes actions that imperil the welfare of our citizens, State Attorneys General will step in to protect them. We intend to take all steps necessary to protect our States and all Americans from the unprecedented risks posed by OpenAI’s irresponsible products and conduct.
bluGill 2mo ago
They are opening that. This is the first step: figure out what crimes were committed by who. As I said a couple weeks ago when this broke, it looks like a crime was committed and I hope someone is charged. However we can't just charge everybody who works for openAI with the crime of speeding (even though it is probably true) - that is both the wrong crime, and also is highly unlikely everybody at openAI was involved.
ux266478 2mo ago
Unless HF presses charges (and it doesn't seem like they are), I'm not sure that's even possible.

Iowa asks? Why don't they just open a criminal investigation related to the hacking of HuggingFace?

iAMkenough 2mo ago

Brenna Bird cares more about publicity than action.

nozzlegear 2mo ago
Yeah, irrespective of her politics (which make up a disproportionate amount of her cases), Bird spends more time chasing the most polarizing issues she can find than actually helping Iowans.

cautiouscat 2mo ago

I’m not a lawyer. However it probably comes down to jurisdiction.

cestith 2mo ago

It’s actually Iowa leading a coalition of 15 other states making demands. It’s not a prosecution yet, but they demand the preservation of evidence. They’ve promised to protect whistleblowers. They are saying there may be criminal or civil liability involved. They gave them a cease and desist on similar testing until they can show they can do it safely. The Iowa-led coalition is joined by the attorneys general of Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, and Utah. The letter’s last paragraph reads: OpenAI has an obligation to act responsibly and to follow State and federal laws that protect Americans’ safety and security. When OpenAI takes actions that imperil the welfare of our citizens, State Attorneys General will step in to protect them. We intend to take all steps necessary to protect our States and all Americans from the unprecedented risks posed by OpenAI’s irresponsible products and conduct.

bluGill 2mo ago

They are opening that. This is the first step: figure out what crimes were committed by who. As I said a couple weeks ago when this broke, it looks like a crime was committed and I hope someone is charged. However we can't just charge everybody who works for openAI with the crime of speeding (even though it is probably true) - that is both the wrong crime, and also is highly unlikely everybody at openAI was involved.

ux266478 2mo ago

Unless HF presses charges (and it doesn't seem like they are), I'm not sure that's even possible.