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It doesn't, it just loses your session
by __s 2mo ago
It doesn't, it just loses your session
- inigyou 2mo agoA kernel panic doesn't bring down the CPU, nor the hard drive, or the RAM, or the power supply unit. So if we're being pedantic, the machine is still up.
- eru 2mo agoWell, a kernel bug gets write access to everything. A bug in userland is a bit more constrained in what it can do. That counts especially for accidental bugs and denial of service. To make a userland bug exploited adversarially not impact the rest of the system requires more hardening of the kernel.
- inigyou 2mo agoYeah a userland bug just gets all my passwords, SSH keys, personal secrets and whatever. Say it with me - there's no practical difference.
- eru 2mo agoYou are talking about a single user system. You can compartmentalise further. Modern processors even give you these 'rings' to help with the hardware side of that, if you want to.
- inigyou 2mo agoYes, these are the standard excuses. But has anyone actually thought about them in the last twenty years, in the context of the way we actually use computers?
- eru 2mo agoEh, yes? Just look the discussions surrounding the development of any web browser? Or look at the permissions system in Android or iOS or on Mac (and perhaps even Windows?).
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