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Then continue to enjoy your broken popup menus and combo box drop downs, for starters.

by gmueckl 3mo ago

happymellon 3mo ago
All apps I use are well behaved and work to the relationship that the window they are given. I'm trying to think of any that try to fight the interface quite as much as this.
seba_dos1 3mo ago
Are these broken popup menus and combo box dropdowns with us in the room right now? Yes, some things in some complex applications can break, but there are solutions and, practically, these particular things you listed simply aren't among those that break.
- gmueckl 3mo ago
  For example, the VS Code menu bar is broken because the drop-downs clip against the window frame, not the screen edges. The reason is different in this case, though (electron).
- tredre3 3mo ago
  GNOME Files (nautilus) made the file property dialog a modal because they really want it to be centered relative to the file browser window and wayland didn't let them position or obtain coordinates. The result is that you can't open open two file property dialogs at once (to compare sizes or dates or any other meta data, it's a common thing one might want to do). Hopefully you'd agree that Wayland should allow apps to position windows relative to their own windows, at the very least.
  - kyusan0 2mo ago
    With Dolphin file manager on Wayland this works for me as expected, a new window opens in the centre of the file browser window, no matter the size or position of the window. I didn't do any actual testing but I wonder what the difference is.
  - happymellon 2mo ago
    Making the pop-ups model has nothing to do with windows not knowing their position on screen. It's a design choice.
casey2 3mo ago
It's not "my broken popup menus" since I'm not writing your app. This is some of the most basic portable software 101 I can't believe a real developer would complain about it. If you do have that attitude there are a million other OOP style things to throw out for speed and correctness before virtual monitors and coordinating compositors

Then continue to enjoy your broken popup menus and combo box drop downs, for starters.

by gmueckl 3mo ago

Then continue to enjoy your broken popup menus and combo box drop downs, for starters.

All apps I use are well behaved and work to the relationship that the window they are given. I'm trying to think of any that try to fight the interface quite as much as this.

seba_dos1 3mo ago

Are these broken popup menus and combo box dropdowns with us in the room right now? Yes, some things in some complex applications can break, but there are solutions and, practically, these particular things you listed simply aren't among those that break.

gmueckl 3mo ago
For example, the VS Code menu bar is broken because the drop-downs clip against the window frame, not the screen edges. The reason is different in this case, though (electron).
tredre3 3mo ago
GNOME Files (nautilus) made the file property dialog a modal because they really want it to be centered relative to the file browser window and wayland didn't let them position or obtain coordinates. The result is that you can't open open two file property dialogs at once (to compare sizes or dates or any other meta data, it's a common thing one might want to do). Hopefully you'd agree that Wayland should allow apps to position windows relative to their own windows, at the very least.
- kyusan0 2mo ago
  With Dolphin file manager on Wayland this works for me as expected, a new window opens in the centre of the file browser window, no matter the size or position of the window. I didn't do any actual testing but I wonder what the difference is.
- happymellon 2mo ago
  Making the pop-ups model has nothing to do with windows not knowing their position on screen. It's a design choice.

casey2 3mo ago

It's not "my broken popup menus" since I'm not writing your app. This is some of the most basic portable software 101 I can't believe a real developer would complain about it. If you do have that attitude there are a million other OOP style things to throw out for speed and correctness before virtual monitors and coordinating compositors