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I still don't get MCP. Most likely because I didn't really check but the first feeling is creating a problem to solve a problem that doesn't exist in the first

I still don't get MCP. Most likely because I didn't really check but the first feeling is creating a problem to solve a problem that doesn't exist in the first place.

mmasu 2mo ago
In enterprise MCP allows users to access resources that could either be unsafe or impractical to consume via API or CLI. It is a powerful pattern, supported by virtually all clients (Cursor, Claude Code, Codex, whatever) and easily implemented in custom harnesses. If you don’t need it you don’t, but it has many useful applications. Stateless will make it a lot more practical to expand applications.
- cheeze 2mo ago
  What is an example of something that is unsafe to consume via API or CLI? Isn't MCP _an API_?
  - PetahNZ 2mo ago
    Its more targeted? Sure I can allow an LLM to access CLI, but then it will try to pipe to other command, write scripts etc. MCP is simply request/response. Its not really that technically different, but the way you and LLMs interact with it allows for easier control. IMHO.
  - progbits 2mo ago
    It is. MCP serves a single purpose: If you ask some company for API support for some stuff you can do via web UI but not API, they might say no for many reasons. But when you ask for MCP, suddenly you trigger AI FOMO and it will be available right away.
  - lexandstuff 2mo ago
    Yes, MCP is an API. Previously, it was an API with a weird stateful standard; now it is essentially a bog-standard stateless JSON-RPC API with conventions for tool discovery, long-running tasks and multi-round-trip requests If you wrote your own JSON-RPC API for an LLM, you would probably eventually end up with something that looks very much like the standard they're describing.
    - Foobar8568 2mo ago
      Ahh so it's the 2025 name for CORBA? just kidding, I meant SOA /s But your answer is the first one that seems to be relevant, so thank you.
- DarkNova6 2mo ago
  I don't get it. I thought the advantage is that you have a client as a library with integrated auth & other tech stuff handled so you can just focus on using the API? Because otherwise you could just use REST with basic endpoint code.
qalmakka 2mo ago
It's mostly useful to allow sandboxed AI apps to access external functionality. If an LLM has any kind of access to a CLI then it stops making sense, because LLMs are very good at CLI and almost always they use less tokens doing that. Plus, you human can easily use a cli tool, while mcp is just for agents.
kmarc 2mo ago
I my mind it's mostly corporate socio-political. Your management have no idea what a (rest) API is, but they saw MCP in countless LinkedIn slop and therefore you are allowed to work on one / use an upstream solution to connect the agents to your 23 year old monolithic unmaintained homebrew CRM that only runs because overcompensated Frank is still willing to pet it manually.
hahahaa 2mo ago
Well for a non-coding (no CLI tooling) flow it means you don't need a sandbox and it provides a plugin architecture.
bob1029 2mo ago
MCP is most useful for extending agent loops with external tools. If you are building your own loops from scratch and don't intend to support external tools, MCP doesn't add anything.
an0malous 2mo ago
The people who promote it don’t get it either but the inmates are running the prison now so we have to pretend like “stateless MCP” isn’t just rebranded REST APIs

I still don't get MCP. Most likely because I didn't really check but the first feeling is creating a problem to solve a problem that doesn't exist in the first place.

mmasu 2mo ago

In enterprise MCP allows users to access resources that could either be unsafe or impractical to consume via API or CLI. It is a powerful pattern, supported by virtually all clients (Cursor, Claude Code, Codex, whatever) and easily implemented in custom harnesses. If you don’t need it you don’t, but it has many useful applications. Stateless will make it a lot more practical to expand applications.

cheeze 2mo ago
What is an example of something that is unsafe to consume via API or CLI? Isn't MCP _an API_?
- PetahNZ 2mo ago
  Its more targeted? Sure I can allow an LLM to access CLI, but then it will try to pipe to other command, write scripts etc. MCP is simply request/response. Its not really that technically different, but the way you and LLMs interact with it allows for easier control. IMHO.
- progbits 2mo ago
  It is. MCP serves a single purpose: If you ask some company for API support for some stuff you can do via web UI but not API, they might say no for many reasons. But when you ask for MCP, suddenly you trigger AI FOMO and it will be available right away.
- lexandstuff 2mo ago
  Yes, MCP is an API. Previously, it was an API with a weird stateful standard; now it is essentially a bog-standard stateless JSON-RPC API with conventions for tool discovery, long-running tasks and multi-round-trip requests If you wrote your own JSON-RPC API for an LLM, you would probably eventually end up with something that looks very much like the standard they're describing.
  - Foobar8568 2mo ago
    Ahh so it's the 2025 name for CORBA? just kidding, I meant SOA /s But your answer is the first one that seems to be relevant, so thank you.
DarkNova6 2mo ago
I don't get it. I thought the advantage is that you have a client as a library with integrated auth & other tech stuff handled so you can just focus on using the API? Because otherwise you could just use REST with basic endpoint code.

qalmakka 2mo ago

It's mostly useful to allow sandboxed AI apps to access external functionality. If an LLM has any kind of access to a CLI then it stops making sense, because LLMs are very good at CLI and almost always they use less tokens doing that. Plus, you human can easily use a cli tool, while mcp is just for agents.

kmarc 2mo ago

I my mind it's mostly corporate socio-political. Your management have no idea what a (rest) API is, but they saw MCP in countless LinkedIn slop and therefore you are allowed to work on one / use an upstream solution to connect the agents to your 23 year old monolithic unmaintained homebrew CRM that only runs because overcompensated Frank is still willing to pet it manually.

hahahaa 2mo ago

Well for a non-coding (no CLI tooling) flow it means you don't need a sandbox and it provides a plugin architecture.

bob1029 2mo ago

MCP is most useful for extending agent loops with external tools. If you are building your own loops from scratch and don't intend to support external tools, MCP doesn't add anything.

an0malous 2mo ago

The people who promote it don’t get it either but the inmates are running the prison now so we have to pretend like “stateless MCP” isn’t just rebranded REST APIs