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Labour conditions in the capitalist west 200 years ago were some of the worst in history, so it's easy to make yourself look good in comparison.
by Fricken 2mo ago
Labour conditions in the capitalist west 200 years ago were some of the worst in history, so it's easy to make yourself look good in comparison.
- WalterBright 2mo agoNow compare that against: 1. working conditions before 200 years ago 2. working conditions under feudalism and communism 3. explain why ships laden with scores of millions of people came to the US, and went back empty
- Fricken 2mo agoBefore 200 years ago we lived as hunter gatherers, and we did it sustainably for millions of years, longer than we've been human. 200 years is nothing. It's nothing, unless that is, we try to think about what the mess we're currently making will look like 200 years from now. Then 200 years from now is a terrifying prospect. It has to be sustainable. If it isn't sustainable it's a joke.
- WalterBright 2mo ago> Before 200 years ago we lived as hunter gatherers Agriculture ended that thousands of years ago. Even the Indians practiced farming. So did the Pilgrims, and the first settlement, Jamestown. Hunter gathering can only sustain a small population.
- Fricken 2mo agoThe important part is that it's sustainable.
- WalterBright 2mo agoNever mind the extinction of the large fauna after the Ice Age. We don't know for sure, but a leading suspect is predation by humans.
- eli_gottlieb 2mo ago> Before 200 years ago we lived as hunter gatherers, and we did it sustainably for millions of years Neither clause in this sentence is true.
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