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Keeps on being rolled out in red states while being delayed in blue states, quite unfortunate.
by elianaive 2mo ago
Keeps on being rolled out in red states while being delayed in blue states, quite unfortunate.
- dmitrygr 2mo ago"Maybe it's something you've got that they haven't got." - Owen Kellogg
- mrtesthah 2mo agoIs it unfortunate, though?
- km3r 2mo ago[flagged]
- wwalexander 2mo agoWhat “anti-science slopulism” are you referring to? And what does corporate rollout strategy have to do with science?
- xnx 2mo agoHistory of being anti-nuclear. Now against "AI" and self driving cars because they like trains.
- wwalexander 2mo agoSelf driving cars and AI aren’t science. Not sure what being pro or anti nuclear or AI has to do with corporate rollout strategy.
- km3r 2mo agoThe science shows self driving cars are already safer. The same was (and is) true of nuclear compared to oil/gas.
- km3r 2mo agoAnti nuclear, anti AI, pro-rent control, anti-self driving tech, anti-automation
- wwalexander 2mo agoWhat does rent control have to do with corporate rollout strategy?
- runako 2mo agoDivide this differently: - states where the major cities commonly have snow for > 3 months - states where the major cities commonly have snow for < 1 month Inclement weather is likely the differentiator. Blue state California gets Waymo in its biggest cities, which handily do not get much snow. The other Waymo cities are all below the Mason-Dixon Line.
- xnx 2mo agoBlocked even from testing in NYC. Blocked from DC and Boston. Unfortunately this does have more to do with bad government than bad weather.
- runako 2mo agoBoston, according to Waymo[1], is dependent on the legislature making autonomous vehicles legal. Apparently NY state laws also require a human driver at the wheel. The only surprising thing about this is that other states did not require changes in law. It's Good, Actually, that big companies are (sometimes) bound by the same laws that bind the rest of us. In any case, there are more than 2-3 "blue" states. We can note that it's also not running in cold "red" states either. The climate angle fits the data best and aligns with what Waymo says, which aligns with what we have known about the tech for at least a decade. (That note also suggests they are still testing their cold-weather kit and are not quite ready.) 1 - https://waymo.com/blog/shorts/back-to-boston/ https://waymo.com/blog/shorts/back-to-boston/
- JumpCrisscross 2mo ago> that big companies are (sometimes) bound by the same laws that bind the rest of us Not if they’re stupid laws!
- lokar 2mo agoEven then. There is value in uniform rule of law.
- cortesoft 2mo agoThey have been fully open here in Los Angeles for almost two years now.
- Zigurd 2mo agoIt's easier to roll out in places where it seldom snows.
- xnx 2mo agoDefinitely true, but snow affecting driving conditions is becoming pretty rare in cities like Chicago.
- skeeter2020 2mo agomaybe weather events that disrupt travel, but impact things like visibility, lane definition, etc? That's still super-common in Chicago and a lot of the US.
- tptacek 2mo agoSeems about as common as it ever was? (I'm very bullish on Waymos here).
- xnx 2mo agoYou're right. I remembered some headlines about road salt usage and took them at face value, but the long-term trends are not clear.
- bluGill 2mo agoRoad salt means I can drive as if it was summer a few hours after the snow stops falling. While the snow is falling I still have to be careful. Ideally I would never drive when the snow is falling, but I live where that happens often enough that we cannot shutdown life for a little snow/ice so we try to make it work - as a result people go in the ditch a lot.
- porphyra 2mo agothe metro areas where it gets rolled out are all blue regardless of state
- staplor 2mo agoIt is unfortunate, but we're still in the early days of AV's. I think that more cities and states will be amenable to them once they have proven themselves as indispensable.
- bhelkey 2mo agoWaymo has logged 67M miles in the SF Bay Area and 50M miles in LA of autonomous miles driven with a passenger [1]. It looks like the rollout is going quite well in California. [1] https://waymo.com/safety/impact/ https://waymo.com/safety/impact/