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If I'm ever on the jury of somebody charged with this, the prosecution has an incredibly high burden to convince me the poles and the cameras on them didn't die

by jmyeet 2mo ago

If I'm ever on the jury of somebody charged with this, the prosecution has an incredibly high burden to convince me the poles and the cameras on them didn't die of natural causes. Maybe if police weren't using Flock cameras to stalk their ex-wives [1][2]. There's an interesting angle to the Flock issue I heard recently. Some predominantly black communities prefer Flock cameras because they're over-policed, black men in particular are more likely to be pulled over on "routine" traffic stops and those stops have a skewed chance of ending in violence of death. As a reminder, US law enforcement kills over 1000 civilians every single year. Over half of those are black men and black men are only ~6% of the population. But that's really a lesser evil type situation because the police simply shouldn't be killing so many people. [1]: https://www.firstalert4.com/2026/08/03/brentwood-officer-accused-using-license-plate-reader-stalk-ex-wife/ https://www.firstalert4.com/2026/08/03/brentwood-officer-acc... [2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/08/02/how-police-officers-used-vast-network-cameras-spy-their-exes/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/08/02/how-pol...

buellerbueller 2mo ago
Classic jury nullification.
JuniperMesos 2mo ago
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- jmyeet 2mo ago
  1350 is a neo-Nazi dog whistle. Think about it this way, let's say that black men committed more crimes per capita than men overall. That means one of two things: 1. There is an intrinsic reason. That's just racism. Black people are no different to any other people. What you're suggesting is that they're inherently violent, basically; or 2. There is an extrinsic reason. Put another way, there's a confounding variable. This part is true. The confounding variable is poverty. The link between poverty and crime has been known about for thousands of years. It's ridiculous and unfounded to claim black people are "under-policied". They're 20% more likely to be stopped for a "routine" traffic stop ("driving while black" is a thing for a reason) [1]. This evidence is solid enough for this that when it's dark this number drops when the police can no longer see the driver in the car. The empirical evidence for over-policing is overwhelming (eg [2]). They tend to get longer sentences for the same crime and are found guilty more often, particularly when there's a racial disparity in the jury, which there often is. [1]: https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/black-drivers-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-police.html?challenge=d06e90d7-4d8f-4b88-9d8c-10b73beb60f1 https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/bl... [2]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10242413/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10242413/
  - buellerbueller 2mo ago
    >It's ridiculous and unfounded to claim black people are "under-policied". You should try reading the book "Ghettocide." From heavily right-leaning </s> The New Republic: "In this non-fiction murder mystery, Leovy’s central message is simple, contrarian, and extremely convincing: The plague of “black-on-black” homicide is the result of under policing. What’s troubling our criminal justice system, she argues, is not preventive policing techniques (e.g., stop and frisk), but rather an abominably low solve rate for black homicides. When the son of a black detective is murdered senselessly in South L.A., a relentless white detective is brought in to solve the case, and Leovy gets a riveting story in which to package her theme." >The empirical evidence for over-policing is overwhelming The study specifically agrees with the thesis of Ghettocide: "The second theme was Black youth’s experiences with the police cultivates mistrust and unsafety, with subthemes including police seen as more likely to harm than help, police not resolving injustices against Black people".

by jmyeet 2mo ago

buellerbueller 2mo ago

Classic jury nullification.

JuniperMesos 2mo ago

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jmyeet 2mo ago
1350 is a neo-Nazi dog whistle. Think about it this way, let's say that black men committed more crimes per capita than men overall. That means one of two things: 1. There is an intrinsic reason. That's just racism. Black people are no different to any other people. What you're suggesting is that they're inherently violent, basically; or 2. There is an extrinsic reason. Put another way, there's a confounding variable. This part is true. The confounding variable is poverty. The link between poverty and crime has been known about for thousands of years. It's ridiculous and unfounded to claim black people are "under-policied". They're 20% more likely to be stopped for a "routine" traffic stop ("driving while black" is a thing for a reason) [1]. This evidence is solid enough for this that when it's dark this number drops when the police can no longer see the driver in the car. The empirical evidence for over-policing is overwhelming (eg [2]). They tend to get longer sentences for the same crime and are found guilty more often, particularly when there's a racial disparity in the jury, which there often is. [1]: https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/black-drivers-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-police.html?challenge=d06e90d7-4d8f-4b88-9d8c-10b73beb60f1 https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/bl... [2]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10242413/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10242413/
- buellerbueller 2mo ago
  >It's ridiculous and unfounded to claim black people are "under-policied". You should try reading the book "Ghettocide." From heavily right-leaning </s> The New Republic: "In this non-fiction murder mystery, Leovy’s central message is simple, contrarian, and extremely convincing: The plague of “black-on-black” homicide is the result of under policing. What’s troubling our criminal justice system, she argues, is not preventive policing techniques (e.g., stop and frisk), but rather an abominably low solve rate for black homicides. When the son of a black detective is murdered senselessly in South L.A., a relentless white detective is brought in to solve the case, and Leovy gets a riveting story in which to package her theme." >The empirical evidence for over-policing is overwhelming The study specifically agrees with the thesis of Ghettocide: "The second theme was Black youth’s experiences with the police cultivates mistrust and unsafety, with subthemes including police seen as more likely to harm than help, police not resolving injustices against Black people".