> You are moving the goalpost here if you think the chess AI was AGI Indeed I would be, but I don't, so I'm not. What I'm saying is that nobody understands ei

> You are moving the goalpost here if you think the chess AI was AGI Indeed I would be, but I don't, so I'm not. What I'm saying is that nobody understands either creativity or intelligence, and people keep listing behavior that they think can only be displayed by something that has those qualities. Yet, whenever we build a system that displays this behavior, all of a sudden, those qualities are NOT attributed because we now understand how to achieve this, the curtain has fallen, the magic is gone, and we do not assign the qualities we believe are human to something that is not magic, lest we reduce ourselves to the machines in front of us, losing the things that make us unique. That is the shifting of goalposts, its not me who's doing it. There's a wiki page for it, its called "the AI effect": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect