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Several (not many relative to the total industry, but several) large household-name companies publicly do general cognitive testing for white collar roles, and

by tptacek 3mo ago

Several (not many relative to the total industry, but several) large household-name companies publicly do general cognitive testing for white collar roles, and the companies that administer these tests have logo crawls just like any SAAS company of their clients. These companies have enormously deep pockets and would be juicy targets for employment law practices. But nothing happens, because this is mostly not a real thing. The reason more companies don't do this is that the tests don't work well for this purpose.

arjie 3mo ago
It seems to be quite accurate that many of these tests are publicly referenced. e.g. (PDF warning) https://www.pwc.com/m1/en/careers/documents/assessment-process-graduates.pdf https://www.pwc.com/m1/en/careers/documents/assessment-proce... and the provider is https://www.shl.com/ https://www.shl.com/ I took the practice test to completion that PWC recommends and just to give people an idea of these cognitive tests. It was a series of questions that went: > Which statement describes you best? > 1. I usually make decisions only after I have collected all relevant information. > 2. I usually think of all factors when I am trying to understand a business issue. > 3. I change my interaction style based on the personality of whom I am speaking to. With a warning when you "go too fast". The test is supposed to take 16 minutes but finishes quite fast. I must imagine that these cannot be the only category. It also wasn't even clear how someone takes one of these to practice since it's impossible to get 'better' on them. There is no evaluation provided at the end. So one must conclude that 'practice' involves 'gaining familiarity with the testing system'. Presumably the psychometric tests are wordsum, shape rotation, something numeric, but I couldn't find one for free to look at without applying so I'm content to just accept that it exists and move on with my life.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3mo ago
  I am positive that I have answered exactly this set of questions as part of a screening test to be allowed to take a Management Certificate course about 15 years ago.
  - arjie 3mo ago
    Haha, they aren’t what I’d call an IQ test. More like a personality quiz perhaps. Did you also do a more IQ-like test that tested cognitive ability rather than evaluated inclination?

by tptacek 3mo ago

arjie 3mo ago

It seems to be quite accurate that many of these tests are publicly referenced. e.g. (PDF warning) https://www.pwc.com/m1/en/careers/documents/assessment-process-graduates.pdf https://www.pwc.com/m1/en/careers/documents/assessment-proce... and the provider is https://www.shl.com/ https://www.shl.com/ I took the practice test to completion that PWC recommends and just to give people an idea of these cognitive tests. It was a series of questions that went: > Which statement describes you best? > 1. I usually make decisions only after I have collected all relevant information. > 2. I usually think of all factors when I am trying to understand a business issue. > 3. I change my interaction style based on the personality of whom I am speaking to. With a warning when you "go too fast". The test is supposed to take 16 minutes but finishes quite fast. I must imagine that these cannot be the only category. It also wasn't even clear how someone takes one of these to practice since it's impossible to get 'better' on them. There is no evaluation provided at the end. So one must conclude that 'practice' involves 'gaining familiarity with the testing system'. Presumably the psychometric tests are wordsum, shape rotation, something numeric, but I couldn't find one for free to look at without applying so I'm content to just accept that it exists and move on with my life.

HeyLaughingBoy 3mo ago
I am positive that I have answered exactly this set of questions as part of a screening test to be allowed to take a Management Certificate course about 15 years ago.
- arjie 3mo ago
  Haha, they aren’t what I’d call an IQ test. More like a personality quiz perhaps. Did you also do a more IQ-like test that tested cognitive ability rather than evaluated inclination?