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I encourage folks with a PlayStation 5 (or 4) to participate in the blackout by unplugging their console for the week of August 23 at 7:00 PM your local time an

I encourage folks with a PlayStation 5 (or 4) to participate in the blackout by unplugging their console for the week of August 23 at 7:00 PM your local time and run to August 31 at 7:00 PM your local time. Hopefully that helps send a message. We should irrevocably own our games, not rent a revokable license. And we should have price competition from multiple store fronts.

jbstack 2mo ago
What message are you trying to send? "Oh look, a bunch of people who have already given us money aren't using the thing they paid for for a week, and we can maybe even save a bit of money by reducing our server load"? Am I missing something? Why should they care? If you really want to send a message, don't buy a PlayStation. If you own one already, don't buy anymore games. That's the only message corporations care about.
- frollogaston 2mo ago
  Do they still sell those at a loss and profit from the games? Guess you could buy a ton of them and only use them as doorstops.
asdff 2mo ago
What like le reddit blackout?
- inigyou 2mo ago
  "le reddit blackout" was the beginning of the end for reddit, so idk what you're trying to imply here.
  - frollogaston 2mo ago
    I think the implication is that the blackout did nothing, and Reddit didn't care. Like this message that really says "I will buy the PS5 anyway."
    - inigyou 2mo ago
      Reddit indeed didn't care. Reddit also slowly collapsed starting from that point in time. It's latest investor information said it's not getting much Google traffic any more.
      - zache6 2mo ago
        That may also have to do with the rise in AI usage
        frollogaston 2mo ago
        Gemini is trained on Reddit data and seems to heavily weight it, so yeah
  - jbstack 2mo ago
    Really? In August 2021 Reddit had a funding valuation at ~$10bn. It announced the API changes in April 2023. The blackout started in June 2023. It launched its IPO at $34 per share in March 2024. It's now trading at $160, with a market cap of ~$30.7bn. In other words, it's tripled in value over a 5 year period during which the blackout happened. That's a phenomenal rate of growth.
    - inigyou 2mo ago
      Why would we measure growth in dollars?
      - jbstack 2mo ago
        This thread is about taking action to send messages to corporations, and whether said messages make any difference. We would measure growth in dollars, because that's what shareholders (and therefore corporations) care about. If you "send a message" because you aren't happy about some direction the corporation took, and a few years later the shareholders are 3x richer than they were before, do you think they're paying attention to your message? All your message does is tell them that not only were they right, they were so right that even a large scale boycott didn't make a dent in the bottom line. You and I might not like it, but that's the reality.
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frollogaston 2mo ago
The message is you'll buy the PS5 anyway. If this bothers you, don't buy it. I'm certainly not.
bean469 2mo ago
The only meaningful way to discourage such actions from companies is to pass new laws. Not playing on your Playstation for a little bit will not change anything

jbstack 2mo ago

What message are you trying to send? "Oh look, a bunch of people who have already given us money aren't using the thing they paid for for a week, and we can maybe even save a bit of money by reducing our server load"? Am I missing something? Why should they care? If you really want to send a message, don't buy a PlayStation. If you own one already, don't buy anymore games. That's the only message corporations care about.

frollogaston 2mo ago
Do they still sell those at a loss and profit from the games? Guess you could buy a ton of them and only use them as doorstops.

asdff 2mo ago

What like le reddit blackout?

inigyou 2mo ago
"le reddit blackout" was the beginning of the end for reddit, so idk what you're trying to imply here.
- frollogaston 2mo ago
  I think the implication is that the blackout did nothing, and Reddit didn't care. Like this message that really says "I will buy the PS5 anyway."
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Reddit indeed didn't care. Reddit also slowly collapsed starting from that point in time. It's latest investor information said it's not getting much Google traffic any more.
    - zache6 2mo ago
      That may also have to do with the rise in AI usage
      - frollogaston 2mo ago
        Gemini is trained on Reddit data and seems to heavily weight it, so yeah
- jbstack 2mo ago
  Really? In August 2021 Reddit had a funding valuation at ~$10bn. It announced the API changes in April 2023. The blackout started in June 2023. It launched its IPO at $34 per share in March 2024. It's now trading at $160, with a market cap of ~$30.7bn. In other words, it's tripled in value over a 5 year period during which the blackout happened. That's a phenomenal rate of growth.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Why would we measure growth in dollars?
    - jbstack 2mo ago
      This thread is about taking action to send messages to corporations, and whether said messages make any difference. We would measure growth in dollars, because that's what shareholders (and therefore corporations) care about. If you "send a message" because you aren't happy about some direction the corporation took, and a few years later the shareholders are 3x richer than they were before, do you think they're paying attention to your message? All your message does is tell them that not only were they right, they were so right that even a large scale boycott didn't make a dent in the bottom line. You and I might not like it, but that's the reality.

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frollogaston 2mo ago

The message is you'll buy the PS5 anyway. If this bothers you, don't buy it. I'm certainly not.

bean469 2mo ago

The only meaningful way to discourage such actions from companies is to pass new laws. Not playing on your Playstation for a little bit will not change anything