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Spotify just hit 300M Premium subscribers

14 points by ksec 2mo ago

schnevets 2mo ago
The growth rate is surprising to me. Anecdotally, I know at least 5 families who have canceled the service and are outspoken in their distaste (even if many just jumped to equally dubious all-you-can-stream offerings). For most folks, it seemed the AI slop made the service objectively worse just as subscription costs increased.
- sparrc 2mo ago
  I've been a subscriber basically ever since it launched in the US and haven't noticed any discernible difference in the service in that entire time. What has turned people off? I haven't noticed any AI features at all to be honest. Then again I only use it for music, not podcasts nor audiobooks.
  - fbd_0100 2mo ago
    same. long time user, haven't really noticed any major changes
  - fwn 2mo ago
    I am on the paid plan since mid-2015 and nowadays I regularly get ads for concerts in the UI. The ads cannot be disabled and there is no amount I can pay to stop them. I even wrote to support, only to get a sloppy reply telling me no: because premium will always only have "an ad-free listening experience".
  - bl4kers 2mo ago
    Podcasts are shoved in your face everywhere, and their official playlists have been flooded with AI music.
  - schnevets 2mo ago
    Recommendations have gotten noticeably worse since the glory days of Discover Weekly. It's possible that my tastes have just stagnated in my mid-30s*, but I just found myself listening to ~40 essential artists, so I decided to just buy once on Bandcamp, knowing that the music creators are getting a larger cut than Spotify would ever give them. Also, I can only give a thumbs down to Paul Simon's Call Me Al so many times. It's not a terrible song, but the way it snuck into every goddamn radio station I request became comical. *Although algorithm discovery stopped appealing to me, I actually replaced Spotify with Radio Paradise and soma.fm and have been enjoying these public stations a lot more. I'm just a boring dad who now prefers carefully-curated for everyone over automatically-created for me
AbraKdabra 2mo ago
I sincerely don't know how people prefer Spotify over Youtube Music, really, I have used both and Spotify is worse in every aspect specially in UX, absolute dogshit usability. I have tried it mutiple times over the years hoping that maybe just maybe they realize, I still remember when I went from Winamp to Grooveshark and when they killed it my first option was Spotify and was amazed at how much effort the design guys put in making the app pure crap. After a few months using it Google decided to gift me 3 months of Google Play Music and never went back, it's day and night.
- Marsymars 2mo ago
  > I sincerely don't know how people prefer Spotify over Youtube Music YouTube Music doesn't have desktop apps, so that makes it a no-go for me. (I don't use Chrome, and have no interest in trying to pin a Firefox PWA for YouTube to my desktop to play music.)
  - AbraKdabra 2mo ago
    You mean official apps, because there are multiple unofficial desktop apps (I used Windows and Linux variants even), I've been using them since forever, I truly can't recall when was the last time I used the web. https://ytmdesktop.app/ https://ytmdesktop.app/
BrokenCogs 2mo ago
Spotify is one piece of software (out of many) that, in my experience, has degraded substantially in performance and usability over the last 2 years. It's gone from something I loved using to something I dread
- devy 2mo ago
  A lot has shared the same experience you described. Myself included.
  - ConorSheehan1 2mo ago
    Time to switch? I went from spotify to tidal and am very happy. This script basically ported everything for me for free. https://github.com/spotify2tidal/spotify_to_tidal https://github.com/spotify2tidal/spotify_to_tidal
- avdwrks 2mo ago
  I switched to Apple Music and haven't looked back. The UX isn't great, but the audio quality alone was worth the switch for me. It also actually shuffles your music instead of cycling through the same small subset of songs.
  - steve_adams_86 2mo ago
    I use Apple Music too. I recently noticed it randomly playing videos, though. I can't hide the overlay despite the checkbox being unchecked for "keep video playback on top of all other windows". Apparently the only way to disable it is via Screen Time, by which you disable video as a content entirely. So weird. I was talking to some coworkers in another room, came back to my desk and a song by Lotta and Doja Cat was playing and the video was like 3/4 of my screen. It was pretty NSFW. No idea why it played a video without me explicitly pressing play on it. Long story short, Apple Music generally does the trick but stuff like this kind of kills me. Coworkers probably think I'm a pervert. Song wasn't great either. I've thought about alternatives but I pay for Apple One and really don't want another subscription.
vanillax 2mo ago
Spotify algorithm has gotten so bad. I just use Youtube Music and it just works(tm).
floydnoel 2mo ago
I had to subscribe to keep my developer account working for Bongo.to so that's one of them!

14 points by ksec 2mo ago

The growth rate is surprising to me. Anecdotally, I know at least 5 families who have canceled the service and are outspoken in their distaste (even if many just jumped to equally dubious all-you-can-stream offerings). For most folks, it seemed the AI slop made the service objectively worse just as subscription costs increased.

sparrc 2mo ago
I've been a subscriber basically ever since it launched in the US and haven't noticed any discernible difference in the service in that entire time. What has turned people off? I haven't noticed any AI features at all to be honest. Then again I only use it for music, not podcasts nor audiobooks.
- fbd_0100 2mo ago
  same. long time user, haven't really noticed any major changes
- fwn 2mo ago
  I am on the paid plan since mid-2015 and nowadays I regularly get ads for concerts in the UI. The ads cannot be disabled and there is no amount I can pay to stop them. I even wrote to support, only to get a sloppy reply telling me no: because premium will always only have "an ad-free listening experience".
- bl4kers 2mo ago
  Podcasts are shoved in your face everywhere, and their official playlists have been flooded with AI music.
- schnevets 2mo ago
  Recommendations have gotten noticeably worse since the glory days of Discover Weekly. It's possible that my tastes have just stagnated in my mid-30s*, but I just found myself listening to ~40 essential artists, so I decided to just buy once on Bandcamp, knowing that the music creators are getting a larger cut than Spotify would ever give them. Also, I can only give a thumbs down to Paul Simon's Call Me Al so many times. It's not a terrible song, but the way it snuck into every goddamn radio station I request became comical. *Although algorithm discovery stopped appealing to me, I actually replaced Spotify with Radio Paradise and soma.fm and have been enjoying these public stations a lot more. I'm just a boring dad who now prefers carefully-curated for everyone over automatically-created for me

AbraKdabra 2mo ago

I sincerely don't know how people prefer Spotify over Youtube Music, really, I have used both and Spotify is worse in every aspect specially in UX, absolute dogshit usability. I have tried it mutiple times over the years hoping that maybe just maybe they realize, I still remember when I went from Winamp to Grooveshark and when they killed it my first option was Spotify and was amazed at how much effort the design guys put in making the app pure crap. After a few months using it Google decided to gift me 3 months of Google Play Music and never went back, it's day and night.

Marsymars 2mo ago
> I sincerely don't know how people prefer Spotify over Youtube Music YouTube Music doesn't have desktop apps, so that makes it a no-go for me. (I don't use Chrome, and have no interest in trying to pin a Firefox PWA for YouTube to my desktop to play music.)
- AbraKdabra 2mo ago
  You mean official apps, because there are multiple unofficial desktop apps (I used Windows and Linux variants even), I've been using them since forever, I truly can't recall when was the last time I used the web. https://ytmdesktop.app/ https://ytmdesktop.app/

BrokenCogs 2mo ago

Spotify is one piece of software (out of many) that, in my experience, has degraded substantially in performance and usability over the last 2 years. It's gone from something I loved using to something I dread

devy 2mo ago
A lot has shared the same experience you described. Myself included.
- ConorSheehan1 2mo ago
  Time to switch? I went from spotify to tidal and am very happy. This script basically ported everything for me for free. https://github.com/spotify2tidal/spotify_to_tidal https://github.com/spotify2tidal/spotify_to_tidal
avdwrks 2mo ago
I switched to Apple Music and haven't looked back. The UX isn't great, but the audio quality alone was worth the switch for me. It also actually shuffles your music instead of cycling through the same small subset of songs.
- steve_adams_86 2mo ago
  I use Apple Music too. I recently noticed it randomly playing videos, though. I can't hide the overlay despite the checkbox being unchecked for "keep video playback on top of all other windows". Apparently the only way to disable it is via Screen Time, by which you disable video as a content entirely. So weird. I was talking to some coworkers in another room, came back to my desk and a song by Lotta and Doja Cat was playing and the video was like 3/4 of my screen. It was pretty NSFW. No idea why it played a video without me explicitly pressing play on it. Long story short, Apple Music generally does the trick but stuff like this kind of kills me. Coworkers probably think I'm a pervert. Song wasn't great either. I've thought about alternatives but I pay for Apple One and really don't want another subscription.

vanillax 2mo ago

Spotify algorithm has gotten so bad. I just use Youtube Music and it just works(tm).

floydnoel 2mo ago

I had to subscribe to keep my developer account working for Bongo.to so that's one of them!