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Definitions of "lose" have been updated by firesteelrain to exclude retreating after failing to achieve anything.
by surgical_fire 2mo ago
Definitions of "lose" have been updated by firesteelrain to exclude retreating after failing to achieve anything.
- firesteelrain 2mo agoThe nation-building project ultimately failed. That is not the same as achieving nothing, nor is a political withdrawal the same thing as being militarily defeated.
- surgical_fire 2mo agoYou can also do Victory parades regardless of losing.
- firesteelrain 2mo agoAnd you can label every political withdrawal a military defeat regardless of what happened on the battlefield. US achieved major objectives, failed at building self-sustaining governments, and eventually withdrew.