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At least here in Norway it has, it seems like it's not very difficult to put some cables in the ground and install a big pre built metal box :) Most gas statio

At least here in Norway it has, it seems like it's not very difficult to put some cables in the ground and install a big pre built metal box :) Most gas stations have them and there is also a lot of street charging stations. But it's still cheapest to charge at home.

postepowanieadm 2mo ago
It's much harder to make a magic juice that moves though the cables and boxes ;)
- somethingweird 2mo ago
  Is it really that much harder than making the magic juice that legacy cars run on? By now it is cheaper and less reliant on despots all over the world to get electricity than fuel in most of Europe I assume. Electricity is a great interface as well given the actual source of energy doesn't matter as much and is interchangeable.
hvb2 2mo ago
> it's not very difficult to put some cables in the ground and install a big pre built metal box :) But increasingly it's becoming a problem that those cables have nowhere to run to as the grid isn't capable of serving them all. There might be excess generation but unless you have the capacity in the wires to get it where it's needed you're still stuck. Especially in dense old cuties where the grid was built when the goal was to power a bunch of incandescent light bulbs. Not all the appliances we have today let alone cars with a battery capacity equal to a household's weekly usage of electricity when the grid was designed.
- adrianN 2mo ago
  The problem can be alleviated with more chargers. If every parking spot had a charger you could slow-charge with much lower pressure on the grid. 2kW over night are plenty for most people’s driving needs.
  - hvb2 2mo ago
    You could but the customer seems to want as fast of a charge as possible... Having driven an EV for over 10 years, I don't see why. There's plenty of places where you have the time but still.
- sam_lowry_ 2mo ago
  >incandescent light bulbs which are an order of magnitude less efficient than contemporary LED lights.
  - LtWorf 2mo ago
    Less efficient but still often having a better output over the frequency spectrum
  - hvb2 2mo ago
    The whole point is that we used to assume that maybe 1 kW was sufficient. 6kW or 9kW isn't uncommon anymore, especially when you also use it for heating

postepowanieadm 2mo ago

It's much harder to make a magic juice that moves though the cables and boxes ;)

somethingweird 2mo ago
Is it really that much harder than making the magic juice that legacy cars run on? By now it is cheaper and less reliant on despots all over the world to get electricity than fuel in most of Europe I assume. Electricity is a great interface as well given the actual source of energy doesn't matter as much and is interchangeable.

hvb2 2mo ago

> it's not very difficult to put some cables in the ground and install a big pre built metal box :) But increasingly it's becoming a problem that those cables have nowhere to run to as the grid isn't capable of serving them all. There might be excess generation but unless you have the capacity in the wires to get it where it's needed you're still stuck. Especially in dense old cuties where the grid was built when the goal was to power a bunch of incandescent light bulbs. Not all the appliances we have today let alone cars with a battery capacity equal to a household's weekly usage of electricity when the grid was designed.

adrianN 2mo ago
The problem can be alleviated with more chargers. If every parking spot had a charger you could slow-charge with much lower pressure on the grid. 2kW over night are plenty for most people’s driving needs.
- hvb2 2mo ago
  You could but the customer seems to want as fast of a charge as possible... Having driven an EV for over 10 years, I don't see why. There's plenty of places where you have the time but still.
sam_lowry_ 2mo ago
>incandescent light bulbs which are an order of magnitude less efficient than contemporary LED lights.
- LtWorf 2mo ago
  Less efficient but still often having a better output over the frequency spectrum
- hvb2 2mo ago
  The whole point is that we used to assume that maybe 1 kW was sufficient. 6kW or 9kW isn't uncommon anymore, especially when you also use it for heating