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Sorry to offend, my point is that the necessity of auto insurance will stick your name (as the insured party for that vin) in a place accessible to flock (or at

by nullc 2mo ago

Sorry to offend, my point is that the necessity of auto insurance will stick your name (as the insured party for that vin) in a place accessible to flock (or at least flock's users). And as such I don't think it provides the results your post suggested "Montana vehicle registrations give you privacy". I really wish it did and I hoped you had some solution!

mannanj 2mo ago
Ah. I understand now. Thank you for clarifying. And my bad too for assuming bad faith there and/or projecting onto you. I don’t want to believe it’s true that you compromise privacy by registering a vehicle under your name, particularly in regards to flock. I admit you could be right, but I want to investigate this more. Do you think it’s possible there could be car insurance agencies that offer you privacy protection of some sort or that there’s another way to keep yourself private? Some ideas I have: - get a cheaper vehicle and get it insurance coverage from the company or someone else - get yourself insurance for another car, and get the coverage for Liability ie to protect the other persons car if you hit someone else and don’t worry about your own car. For example; a $5k car pays for itself after 1-2 years of no significant claims and now you have what your insurance would have offered for your car anyway. (“The cost of privacy”.) - I am not convinced your insurance company would data sharing with flock or its subsidiaries if they only have your vin. What are your data sources for this? Edit: as a legitimate need; perhaps the market will reveal itself large enough to surface an insurance company that offers privacy protection and refuses flock data sharing. However just because this could true that insurance companies would share with flock today, doesn’t mean it is.
- nullc 2mo ago
  Broad form car insurance might accomplish what you want: https://www.policygenius.com/auto-insurance/what-is-broad-form-car-insurance/ https://www.policygenius.com/auto-insurance/what-is-broad-fo... But I believe the intersection of states with highly private registration and where broad form is available is the empty set. > I am not convinced your insurance company would data sharing with flock or its subsidiaries if they only have your vin. Go pull your lexis nexis report.
  - mannanj 2mo ago
    Good ideas. These could work. Also, at least today, the solution to give ownership of any vehicle-properties to an LLC, and ensure it by vin may still work against flock as we haven't see any evidence they data-share between the insurance boundaries yet.

by nullc 2mo ago

mannanj 2mo ago

Ah. I understand now. Thank you for clarifying. And my bad too for assuming bad faith there and/or projecting onto you. I don’t want to believe it’s true that you compromise privacy by registering a vehicle under your name, particularly in regards to flock. I admit you could be right, but I want to investigate this more. Do you think it’s possible there could be car insurance agencies that offer you privacy protection of some sort or that there’s another way to keep yourself private? Some ideas I have: - get a cheaper vehicle and get it insurance coverage from the company or someone else - get yourself insurance for another car, and get the coverage for Liability ie to protect the other persons car if you hit someone else and don’t worry about your own car. For example; a $5k car pays for itself after 1-2 years of no significant claims and now you have what your insurance would have offered for your car anyway. (“The cost of privacy”.) - I am not convinced your insurance company would data sharing with flock or its subsidiaries if they only have your vin. What are your data sources for this? Edit: as a legitimate need; perhaps the market will reveal itself large enough to surface an insurance company that offers privacy protection and refuses flock data sharing. However just because this could true that insurance companies would share with flock today, doesn’t mean it is.

nullc 2mo ago
Broad form car insurance might accomplish what you want: https://www.policygenius.com/auto-insurance/what-is-broad-form-car-insurance/ https://www.policygenius.com/auto-insurance/what-is-broad-fo... But I believe the intersection of states with highly private registration and where broad form is available is the empty set. > I am not convinced your insurance company would data sharing with flock or its subsidiaries if they only have your vin. Go pull your lexis nexis report.
- mannanj 2mo ago
  Good ideas. These could work. Also, at least today, the solution to give ownership of any vehicle-properties to an LLC, and ensure it by vin may still work against flock as we haven't see any evidence they data-share between the insurance boundaries yet.