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> it's about having emotions and the ability to feel pain That's just a random line you have drawn. > Plants don't cry out for days when their children are t

by csomar 2mo ago

> it's about having emotions and the ability to feel pain That's just a random line you have drawn. > Plants don't cry out for days when their children are taken away from them. Plants do feel pain and react to their surrounding. They are more primitive creatures though. > would you feel bad pulling a plant out the ground? Yes, I wouldn't do it and I am from a country where pulling an olive tree is illegal (with a jail sentence).

alpineman 2mo ago
Plants don't feel pain as pain is generally understood. They don't have neural circuits, nociceptors, or brains. We have all those things. Cats, cows, and pigs have all those things. That said, plants do have defense mechanisms, of course. But that's not the same thing as pain or emotions. In any case, generally strawberry pickers aren't traumatised in the same way as slaughterhouse workers. Even if one were to view animal and plant lives as equivalent, around 40% of all crops are grown to feed animals. Needless to say, it's a lossy conversion. Calorie-wise it's far less efficient for an animal to eat the food and for us to eat the animal, than for us to just eat the plant directly. So if you really want to reduce un-necessary plant deaths/suffering, then ultimately eating less meat is the way to do it.
- sajithdilshan 2mo ago
  > Plants don't feel pain as pain is generally understood. we don't know that for sure. just to be safe don't eat plants or plant based products too. Eat dirt, that's 100% safe and also feed your children dirt too. The evolution would do the rest and rid your genes from the gene pool
  - alpineman 2mo ago
    Absurd example, dig at my kids, no counterargument. That's the online equivalent of conceding the argument. Nice one.
    - sajithdilshan 2mo ago
      that's actually an advice. Please don't hurt the plants and their emotions. Keep on eating dirt
      - alpineman 2mo ago
        >> that's actually an advice. Please don't hurt the plants and their emotions. Keep on eating dirt Thank you Sajith Dilshan
        sajithdilshan 2mo ago
        You’re welcome Al Pine Man

by csomar 2mo ago

alpineman 2mo ago

Plants don't feel pain as pain is generally understood. They don't have neural circuits, nociceptors, or brains. We have all those things. Cats, cows, and pigs have all those things. That said, plants do have defense mechanisms, of course. But that's not the same thing as pain or emotions. In any case, generally strawberry pickers aren't traumatised in the same way as slaughterhouse workers. Even if one were to view animal and plant lives as equivalent, around 40% of all crops are grown to feed animals. Needless to say, it's a lossy conversion. Calorie-wise it's far less efficient for an animal to eat the food and for us to eat the animal, than for us to just eat the plant directly. So if you really want to reduce un-necessary plant deaths/suffering, then ultimately eating less meat is the way to do it.

sajithdilshan 2mo ago
> Plants don't feel pain as pain is generally understood. we don't know that for sure. just to be safe don't eat plants or plant based products too. Eat dirt, that's 100% safe and also feed your children dirt too. The evolution would do the rest and rid your genes from the gene pool
- alpineman 2mo ago
  Absurd example, dig at my kids, no counterargument. That's the online equivalent of conceding the argument. Nice one.
  - sajithdilshan 2mo ago
    that's actually an advice. Please don't hurt the plants and their emotions. Keep on eating dirt
    - alpineman 2mo ago
      >> that's actually an advice. Please don't hurt the plants and their emotions. Keep on eating dirt Thank you Sajith Dilshan
      - sajithdilshan 2mo ago
        You’re welcome Al Pine Man