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When people came from Algeria, Jamaica and Suriname to Europe they were not foreigners they had French, British and Dutch passports. Germany's lack of such a c

When people came from Algeria, Jamaica and Suriname to Europe they were not foreigners they had French, British and Dutch passports. Germany's lack of such a colonial empire kept the country from transitioning into a true multicultural society. It explains Germans special branch of racism.

KellyCriterion 2mo ago
So "Germans are special in their racissm" because they had no "luck of such colonial empire"?? Im glad that this country didnt play a larger role in colonialism! Your sentence is the first I hear in decaded advocading for "if they had colonialism as well, it would be a much better country because then they wouldnt be racist"?? By the way - Poland or Hungary also had no "luck of colonial empire" - what about them? As well as tons of other European states?
- klausa 2mo ago
  I didn't read that post as saying "there is no racism in France/Britain/Netherlands thanks to their past"; I understood it as "the _kind_ of racism there is _different_ than the one in Germany, for historical reasons". That strikes me as... kind of true? Poland's issues with racism are also pretty different than in the countries mentioned.
- mr_mitm 2mo ago
  Just FYI, it says "lack", not "luck"
dgellow 2mo ago
Germany had a colonial empire though
- ksk23 2mo ago
  A small one, and we do not have any ties no more to these states, really (in contrast to Spain, France and whatnot)
  - dgellow 2mo ago
    The German colonial empire was the 3rd largest at the time, just after the French and the British ones. There are still cultural ties. I meant only the colonial empire, but you could also include nazi Germany colonial projects, they also had a lasting impact
dgellow 2mo ago
> When people came from Algeria … to Europe they were not foreigners they had French … passports. That’s not true at all for France with Algerians. The history of hate towards them has been horrible and is still very recent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Paris_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Paris_massacre

KellyCriterion 2mo ago

So "Germans are special in their racissm" because they had no "luck of such colonial empire"?? Im glad that this country didnt play a larger role in colonialism! Your sentence is the first I hear in decaded advocading for "if they had colonialism as well, it would be a much better country because then they wouldnt be racist"?? By the way - Poland or Hungary also had no "luck of colonial empire" - what about them? As well as tons of other European states?

klausa 2mo ago
I didn't read that post as saying "there is no racism in France/Britain/Netherlands thanks to their past"; I understood it as "the _kind_ of racism there is _different_ than the one in Germany, for historical reasons". That strikes me as... kind of true? Poland's issues with racism are also pretty different than in the countries mentioned.
mr_mitm 2mo ago
Just FYI, it says "lack", not "luck"

dgellow 2mo ago

Germany had a colonial empire though

ksk23 2mo ago
A small one, and we do not have any ties no more to these states, really (in contrast to Spain, France and whatnot)
- dgellow 2mo ago
  The German colonial empire was the 3rd largest at the time, just after the French and the British ones. There are still cultural ties. I meant only the colonial empire, but you could also include nazi Germany colonial projects, they also had a lasting impact

dgellow 2mo ago

> When people came from Algeria … to Europe they were not foreigners they had French … passports. That’s not true at all for France with Algerians. The history of hate towards them has been horrible and is still very recent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Paris_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Paris_massacre