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4Chan Accepts Bitcoin

73 points by doublextremevil 14y ago

mtgx 14y ago
They're using Coinbase it seems.
anon6567 14y ago
What can you buy @ 4chan?
- cytzol 14y ago
  A 4chan Pass, which allows you to bypass the CAPTCHA for a year.
C0rn3j 14y ago
But i dont accept 4chan.
Nursie 14y ago
Awesome, between /b/, money launderers, the Silk Road, and its arms-dealing offshoot, bitcoin may have attracted the attention of all the scumbags on the internet!
- jrogers65 14y ago
  Why do you consider people who frequent the Silk Road to be scumbags?
  - Nursie 14y ago
    I don't really, but I do find it amusing that the BTC fanatics try to push for mainstream acceptance, when what's actually happening is (predictably) it mostly gets used by the underground.
  - duiker101 14y ago
    Because usually it's people that do shady things, not bad things maybe, just things that people don't want you to see, no matter if it's just trading pot or else, or even if you have the best intentions. If you do need/want to hide something, people will assume you are doing something bad, and therefore you are a scumbag. Personally I don't care but this is how the world usually works.
    - finnw 14y ago
      That's why advocates of bitcoin (and tor) encourage everyone to use them for mundane things.
    - 1337biz 14y ago
      If you do need/want to hide something, people will assume you are doing something bad, and therefore you are a scumbag. This is sad. I don't buy into this "You don't need privacy if you have nothing to hide" argument. In my opinion OP was just trolling by wrapping up of a bunch of unrelated "things" in the statement.
    - hamoid 14y ago
      Everybody wants to hide their passwords. Does that mean everybody is a scumbag?
- unemployed 14y ago
  >Implying 4chan == /b/.
- scotty79 14y ago
  I'm strongly surprised that is not widely used for money laundering yet. It seems perfect for the purpose of storing value and moving it semi-anonymously. Especially since you can just buy a bunch of very generic hardware with stolen money and mine pure money. I'm hoping underground will adopt bitcoins widely before I'll be forced to sell the ones I own. Maybe there has to be generation change for that, but luckily gangster generations are shorter than average ones.
  - Nursie 14y ago
    I'm not sure whether it's that easy to break even on mining equipment and electricity any more, I think it was getting tight for a lot of folks. Unsure though. As for money laundering - bitcoin laundry services do exist, I'm not sure how much money you could put through the exchanges without disturbing the economy significantly, but likely quite a bit. Maybe it's already happening?
    - scotty79 14y ago
      I don't think money launderers expect to get 100% of clean money out of the money they have to clean up.
      - Nursie 14y ago
        Oh sure. IIRC the economics of mining have been getting worse for some time but you're right that may well be irrelevant.
  - finnw 14y ago
    > Especially since you can just buy a bunch of very generic hardware with stolen money and mine pure money. I think that would require buying electricity with bitcoin. Is that possible yet?
  - frozenport 14y ago
    Not enough coins. Money laundering is billions and billions of dollars. How does one anonymously move 1 billion dollars, without suspicion? Any large purchase or sale sticks out like a sore thumb.
- Udo 14y ago
  Come on, equating 4chan with the worst of /b/ is a little like judging HN solely based on the spammy posts on the /newest page.
  - ceol 14y ago
    Not really, unless the majority of HN users come for the spammy posts on the /newest page.
    - Udo 14y ago
      You're asserting that the vast majority of 4chan users are /b/ trolls. Can you back that up somehow?
      - CGamesPlay 14y ago
        Post IDs are sequential. The newest post on /b/ is 443,351,492, and the next-nearest is /v/ with 166,654,765.
        Aco- 14y ago
        4chan, like HN, is also plagued by spammy posts, just something to note about those numbers.
        Udo 14y ago
        A lot of /b/ is comprised of noise, it's mainly a few very prolific users who use it as a rapid-fire chat room - whereas the rest of 4chan is used more like a message board. So of course, b has more posts. But even so, it's not true that most of the action on 4chan is /b/, and certainly not most of the users. /a/ (anime) 76,358,226 /b/ (random) 443,355,941 /c/ (anime/cute) 1,952,748 /d/ (hentai) 4,429,215 /e/ (ecchi) 1,531,210 /f/ (flash) 1,830,359 /g/ (technology) 29,833,456 /t/ (torrents) 541,357 /u/ (yuri) 1,321,534 /v/ (video games) 166,666,985 /vg/ (video games) 20,810,830 /w/ (anime wallp.) 1,444,187 /wg/ (wallpapers) 4,667,232 /i/ (oekaki) 398,648 /ic/ (artwork crit.) 1,083,696 /r9k/ (robot 9001) 4,798,295 /cm/ (cute/male) 2,802,217 /hm/ (handsome men) 446,647 /y/ (yaoi) 1,990,139 /3/ (3dcg) 319,975 /adv/ (advice) 11,246,991 /an/ (animals&nat.) 1,327,885 /cgl/ (cosplay&egl) 6,486,836 /ck/ (food&cooking) 4,071,583 /co/ (comics&carts.) 43,931,256 /diy/ (do-it-yourself) 351,467 /fa/ (fashion) 5,271,417 /fit/ (health&fitness) 16,363,177 /hc/ (hardcore) 301,394 /int/ (international) 7,199,819 /jp/ (otaku) 10,207,786 /s/ (sexy) 13,779,843 /lit/ (literature) 3,241,126 /mlp/ (pony) 6,535,229 /mu/ (music) 31,060,238 /n/ (transport) 423,302 /po/ (papercraft) 485,531 /pol/ (pol. incorr.) 8,219,557 /sci/ (science) 5,348,462 /soc/ (social) 14,029,667 /sp/ (sports) 29,263,446 /tg/ (trad. games) 22,025,427 /toy/ (toys) 3,233,423 /trv/ (travel) 661,343 /tv/ (television) 28,024,181 /vp/ (pokemon) 10,674,534 /wsg/ (worksafe gif) 84,034 /x/ (paranormal) 11,544,411 /q/ (meta disc.) 328,594 TOTAL 1,062,304,856
- wting 14y ago
  Internet porn was an industry leader in offering streaming video, online payment processing, one to one video conferencing, and geolocation advertising. Just because a technology is affiliated with a morally grey industry doesn't discount the value of the technology itself.
  - Nursie 14y ago
    Absolutely! I was being flippant really. I have a whole bunch of reasons why I disagree with bitcoin in its current form proliferating. Most are to do with my feelings about relying on a currency without central controls, or about a curency with built-in deflation, or with the tiny number of people who (if it took off) would find themselves joining the ranks of the mega-rich simply for having run a program for a few days in 2009. That it is associated with enabling the quasi-legal, the semi-legal and the totally illegal actually counts in its favour for me.
    - ewillbefull 14y ago
      If you truly don't want to understand mining or how the blockchain protects the integrity of transactions, you can hold off on making cynical assumptions about its design. Early adopters to the network provided the computing power that lets the currency even exist in the first place. They also likely all sold their BTC years ago. The economic output of a few days of mining in 2009 could have never been more than a couple hundred dollars in today's money for even the best miners. In fact it has been a long time since mining had a good ROI, or even a predictable one. If your deal-breaker is a centralized currency or your preferred economic theory then by all means ignore it, but I don't see how you need to care about its proliferation. Cash has the same properties anyway. Your dismissive/grumpy attitude reminds me of something Gandhi said about ridicule.
      - Nursie 14y ago
        I've been ridiculing it since they day I heard about it, rather than going through any sort of ghandi-esque three step process. I took time to understand exactly what it is and decided the crypto was interesting but as a currency it's not something I could ever adopt in good conscience. The rules, set in stone since the beginning, are not a recipe for a good currency. What's more the Randian/libertarian fanboys provide no end of amusement. The various ponzi schemes and robberies are terrible, and the reaction of the community just as bad. So to me BTC is an unworkable currency with a toxic community.
lousy_sysadmin 14y ago
"Reddit Accept Bitcoin" "4Chan Accept Bitcoin" "____ Accept Bitcoin" Is this going to be a trend on HackerNews post?
- 89a 14y ago
  HackerNews Accept Bitcoin?
  - gnu8 14y ago
    Maybe it should be HackerNew Accept Bitcoin since we're dropping the s from every word. Bitcoin needs to be plural and accept needs to be in the present tense. This makes no sense.
    - owendbybest 14y ago
      Does "Yen" make sense to you?
gesman 14y ago
I working on free woprdpress plugin that will allow anyone to build beautiful online store and accept bitcoins for sales of physical and digital products. Fully automatically and zero fees to a middle man! Ping me if you want to be notified about release.

mtgx 14y ago

They're using Coinbase it seems.

anon6567 14y ago

What can you buy @ 4chan?

cytzol 14y ago
A 4chan Pass, which allows you to bypass the CAPTCHA for a year.

C0rn3j 14y ago

But i dont accept 4chan.

Nursie 14y ago

Awesome, between /b/, money launderers, the Silk Road, and its arms-dealing offshoot, bitcoin may have attracted the attention of all the scumbags on the internet!

jrogers65 14y ago
Why do you consider people who frequent the Silk Road to be scumbags?
- Nursie 14y ago
  I don't really, but I do find it amusing that the BTC fanatics try to push for mainstream acceptance, when what's actually happening is (predictably) it mostly gets used by the underground.
- duiker101 14y ago
  Because usually it's people that do shady things, not bad things maybe, just things that people don't want you to see, no matter if it's just trading pot or else, or even if you have the best intentions. If you do need/want to hide something, people will assume you are doing something bad, and therefore you are a scumbag. Personally I don't care but this is how the world usually works.
  - finnw 14y ago
    That's why advocates of bitcoin (and tor) encourage everyone to use them for mundane things.
  - 1337biz 14y ago
    If you do need/want to hide something, people will assume you are doing something bad, and therefore you are a scumbag. This is sad. I don't buy into this "You don't need privacy if you have nothing to hide" argument. In my opinion OP was just trolling by wrapping up of a bunch of unrelated "things" in the statement.
  - hamoid 14y ago
    Everybody wants to hide their passwords. Does that mean everybody is a scumbag?
unemployed 14y ago
>Implying 4chan == /b/.
scotty79 14y ago
I'm strongly surprised that is not widely used for money laundering yet. It seems perfect for the purpose of storing value and moving it semi-anonymously. Especially since you can just buy a bunch of very generic hardware with stolen money and mine pure money. I'm hoping underground will adopt bitcoins widely before I'll be forced to sell the ones I own. Maybe there has to be generation change for that, but luckily gangster generations are shorter than average ones.
- Nursie 14y ago
  I'm not sure whether it's that easy to break even on mining equipment and electricity any more, I think it was getting tight for a lot of folks. Unsure though. As for money laundering - bitcoin laundry services do exist, I'm not sure how much money you could put through the exchanges without disturbing the economy significantly, but likely quite a bit. Maybe it's already happening?
  - scotty79 14y ago
    I don't think money launderers expect to get 100% of clean money out of the money they have to clean up.
    - Nursie 14y ago
      Oh sure. IIRC the economics of mining have been getting worse for some time but you're right that may well be irrelevant.
- finnw 14y ago
  > Especially since you can just buy a bunch of very generic hardware with stolen money and mine pure money. I think that would require buying electricity with bitcoin. Is that possible yet?
- frozenport 14y ago
  Not enough coins. Money laundering is billions and billions of dollars. How does one anonymously move 1 billion dollars, without suspicion? Any large purchase or sale sticks out like a sore thumb.
Udo 14y ago
Come on, equating 4chan with the worst of /b/ is a little like judging HN solely based on the spammy posts on the /newest page.
- ceol 14y ago
  Not really, unless the majority of HN users come for the spammy posts on the /newest page.
  - Udo 14y ago
    You're asserting that the vast majority of 4chan users are /b/ trolls. Can you back that up somehow?
    - CGamesPlay 14y ago
      Post IDs are sequential. The newest post on /b/ is 443,351,492, and the next-nearest is /v/ with 166,654,765.
      - Aco- 14y ago
        4chan, like HN, is also plagued by spammy posts, just something to note about those numbers.
      - Udo 14y ago
        A lot of /b/ is comprised of noise, it's mainly a few very prolific users who use it as a rapid-fire chat room - whereas the rest of 4chan is used more like a message board. So of course, b has more posts. But even so, it's not true that most of the action on 4chan is /b/, and certainly not most of the users. /a/ (anime) 76,358,226 /b/ (random) 443,355,941 /c/ (anime/cute) 1,952,748 /d/ (hentai) 4,429,215 /e/ (ecchi) 1,531,210 /f/ (flash) 1,830,359 /g/ (technology) 29,833,456 /t/ (torrents) 541,357 /u/ (yuri) 1,321,534 /v/ (video games) 166,666,985 /vg/ (video games) 20,810,830 /w/ (anime wallp.) 1,444,187 /wg/ (wallpapers) 4,667,232 /i/ (oekaki) 398,648 /ic/ (artwork crit.) 1,083,696 /r9k/ (robot 9001) 4,798,295 /cm/ (cute/male) 2,802,217 /hm/ (handsome men) 446,647 /y/ (yaoi) 1,990,139 /3/ (3dcg) 319,975 /adv/ (advice) 11,246,991 /an/ (animals&nat.) 1,327,885 /cgl/ (cosplay&egl) 6,486,836 /ck/ (food&cooking) 4,071,583 /co/ (comics&carts.) 43,931,256 /diy/ (do-it-yourself) 351,467 /fa/ (fashion) 5,271,417 /fit/ (health&fitness) 16,363,177 /hc/ (hardcore) 301,394 /int/ (international) 7,199,819 /jp/ (otaku) 10,207,786 /s/ (sexy) 13,779,843 /lit/ (literature) 3,241,126 /mlp/ (pony) 6,535,229 /mu/ (music) 31,060,238 /n/ (transport) 423,302 /po/ (papercraft) 485,531 /pol/ (pol. incorr.) 8,219,557 /sci/ (science) 5,348,462 /soc/ (social) 14,029,667 /sp/ (sports) 29,263,446 /tg/ (trad. games) 22,025,427 /toy/ (toys) 3,233,423 /trv/ (travel) 661,343 /tv/ (television) 28,024,181 /vp/ (pokemon) 10,674,534 /wsg/ (worksafe gif) 84,034 /x/ (paranormal) 11,544,411 /q/ (meta disc.) 328,594 TOTAL 1,062,304,856
wting 14y ago
Internet porn was an industry leader in offering streaming video, online payment processing, one to one video conferencing, and geolocation advertising. Just because a technology is affiliated with a morally grey industry doesn't discount the value of the technology itself.
- Nursie 14y ago
  Absolutely! I was being flippant really. I have a whole bunch of reasons why I disagree with bitcoin in its current form proliferating. Most are to do with my feelings about relying on a currency without central controls, or about a curency with built-in deflation, or with the tiny number of people who (if it took off) would find themselves joining the ranks of the mega-rich simply for having run a program for a few days in 2009. That it is associated with enabling the quasi-legal, the semi-legal and the totally illegal actually counts in its favour for me.
  - ewillbefull 14y ago
    If you truly don't want to understand mining or how the blockchain protects the integrity of transactions, you can hold off on making cynical assumptions about its design. Early adopters to the network provided the computing power that lets the currency even exist in the first place. They also likely all sold their BTC years ago. The economic output of a few days of mining in 2009 could have never been more than a couple hundred dollars in today's money for even the best miners. In fact it has been a long time since mining had a good ROI, or even a predictable one. If your deal-breaker is a centralized currency or your preferred economic theory then by all means ignore it, but I don't see how you need to care about its proliferation. Cash has the same properties anyway. Your dismissive/grumpy attitude reminds me of something Gandhi said about ridicule.
    - Nursie 14y ago
      I've been ridiculing it since they day I heard about it, rather than going through any sort of ghandi-esque three step process. I took time to understand exactly what it is and decided the crypto was interesting but as a currency it's not something I could ever adopt in good conscience. The rules, set in stone since the beginning, are not a recipe for a good currency. What's more the Randian/libertarian fanboys provide no end of amusement. The various ponzi schemes and robberies are terrible, and the reaction of the community just as bad. So to me BTC is an unworkable currency with a toxic community.

lousy_sysadmin 14y ago

"Reddit Accept Bitcoin" "4Chan Accept Bitcoin" "____ Accept Bitcoin" Is this going to be a trend on HackerNews post?

89a 14y ago
HackerNews Accept Bitcoin?
- gnu8 14y ago
  Maybe it should be HackerNew Accept Bitcoin since we're dropping the s from every word. Bitcoin needs to be plural and accept needs to be in the present tense. This makes no sense.
  - owendbybest 14y ago
    Does "Yen" make sense to you?

gesman 14y ago

I working on free woprdpress plugin that will allow anyone to build beautiful online store and accept bitcoins for sales of physical and digital products. Fully automatically and zero fees to a middle man! Ping me if you want to be notified about release.