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Yes, I would blame the buyer for thinking it's important at this point. It's almost a meme response to EVs. All you need to do is an honest look at how many da

Yes, I would blame the buyer for thinking it's important at this point. It's almost a meme response to EVs. All you need to do is an honest look at how many days a year you drive 500+ miles per day. People can't seem to do that and fixate on the ultra long distance road trip that they might make once per year. And neglecting to realize that they stop for bathroom breaks and food and so the actual time you're simply waiting for charging is, at best, maybe 20-30 minutes per year. 99% of the time you would be plugging your car into the charger at your house. And it just charges overnight. I guess it's different if people have no way to charge their car at home or have it plugged in overnight. But in that case a lot of times they can pick up charge while at work, or whole doing grocery shopping, etc.

kccqzy 2mo ago
No. You are presupposing a particular usage of a car and imposing that on a potential buyer. I take the train or bike to work, so for me my car is only for weekend trips. That’s why I bought the fastest-charging car available at that time. Even for road trips there are different ways to approach it. Some people just want to get to their destination fast and don’t mind eating at wherever the charger is. Others take road trips differently and would want to eat at the best restaurant at each local town they pass through, which may not be where chargers are. And if there are many passengers the bathroom breaks are usually not aligned with when the car needs charging. The perfect scenario of getting food or bathroom breaks exactly when the car needs charging could be a rare scenario.
- IncreasePosts 2mo ago
  That's how designing products works. There are particular use cases one designs for. My point is that by far the most common use case I'd daily driving, and very few people would be majorly and continually inconvenienced by charging 200 miles in 15 minutes. Even if your use case is "only take the car on 500 mile road trips and I don't want to stop for 15 minutes", you should be able to understand how exceedingly rate that is.
  - kccqzy 2mo ago
    That’s how the modern way of designing products works. 90% of use cases is enough. YAGNI. The R&D needed for the last 10% is not worth its marginal return. There is no ambition, no perfectionism, no maniac attention to detail any more.

kccqzy 2mo ago

No. You are presupposing a particular usage of a car and imposing that on a potential buyer. I take the train or bike to work, so for me my car is only for weekend trips. That’s why I bought the fastest-charging car available at that time. Even for road trips there are different ways to approach it. Some people just want to get to their destination fast and don’t mind eating at wherever the charger is. Others take road trips differently and would want to eat at the best restaurant at each local town they pass through, which may not be where chargers are. And if there are many passengers the bathroom breaks are usually not aligned with when the car needs charging. The perfect scenario of getting food or bathroom breaks exactly when the car needs charging could be a rare scenario.

IncreasePosts 2mo ago
That's how designing products works. There are particular use cases one designs for. My point is that by far the most common use case I'd daily driving, and very few people would be majorly and continually inconvenienced by charging 200 miles in 15 minutes. Even if your use case is "only take the car on 500 mile road trips and I don't want to stop for 15 minutes", you should be able to understand how exceedingly rate that is.
- kccqzy 2mo ago
  That’s how the modern way of designing products works. 90% of use cases is enough. YAGNI. The R&D needed for the last 10% is not worth its marginal return. There is no ambition, no perfectionism, no maniac attention to detail any more.