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I think rejecting proposals from MEPs on the grounds that "it's against EU interests" would be very undemocratic and fuel the very anti-EU sentiment that it wou

by dijit 2mo ago

I think rejecting proposals from MEPs on the grounds that "it's against EU interests" would be very undemocratic and fuel the very anti-EU sentiment that it would supposedly combat.

mort96 2mo ago
And approving this kind of regulation doesn't?
- dijit 2mo ago
  idk what kind of fascist you are, but a free society doesn’t stop talking about something because certain leaders don’t like it. In order to get legislation you want (say: gay rights) you have to risk legislation you don’t like, for some, that would be gay rights too…
  - mort96 2mo ago
    Some legislation is good, some legislation is bad. Legislation allowing gay people to be gay is good. Legislation enforcing hardware attestation from Google and Apple to access services is bad. These are facts, not opinions; I'm not a moral relativist.
    - dijit 2mo ago
      Literally opinions.
      - mort96 2mo ago
        Again, I don't subscribe to moral relativism. Some things are good, some things are bad.
        dijit 2mo ago
        you mean the things you think are good, are good. And things that you think are bad, are bad. Everyone feels this way about their things.
        mort96 2mo ago
        No, I meant what I wrote. Some things are good, some things are bad. Some people are wrong. There are plenty of subjective areas where people can disagree without being fundamentally bad people. These things are not those.
        dijit 2mo ago
        I'm impressed that you know everything that's good and bad to be so resolute that you are the person who knows it all, it must be pretty incredible to be the one person on earth who has no doubts at all about what objective good and objective bad is. Maybe we should get you some place safe so we can have you judging humanities actions. What's your position on military spending? Because if we don't spend then our countries get invaded (see: Ukraine) but if we do spend then we're taking money from starving families.. hrm.. I personally have a really hard time, since unfortunately I can empathise with the motivations of others, and everyone has a point, even if I don't agree with it. The thing is, that I'm aware that everyone thinks they're the good guy, the hero, or the "necessary evil for the greater good", and I find it more interesting to understand why they think what they think is better than what I think. The alternative means I've already factored the entire populations needs and circumstances, which, for my tiny meat brain which can only empathise with one person at a time is practically impossible. How did you manage it?
        mort96 2mo ago
        Again, I don't know (and never claimed to know) everything that's good and everything that's bad. But I do know some things that are good and some things that are bad.
        dijit 2mo ago

by dijit 2mo ago

I think rejecting proposals from MEPs on the grounds that "it's against EU interests" would be very undemocratic and fuel the very anti-EU sentiment that it would supposedly combat.

mort96 2mo ago

And approving this kind of regulation doesn't?

dijit 2mo ago
idk what kind of fascist you are, but a free society doesn’t stop talking about something because certain leaders don’t like it. In order to get legislation you want (say: gay rights) you have to risk legislation you don’t like, for some, that would be gay rights too…
- mort96 2mo ago
  Some legislation is good, some legislation is bad. Legislation allowing gay people to be gay is good. Legislation enforcing hardware attestation from Google and Apple to access services is bad. These are facts, not opinions; I'm not a moral relativist.
  - dijit 2mo ago
    Literally opinions.
    - mort96 2mo ago
      Again, I don't subscribe to moral relativism. Some things are good, some things are bad.
      - dijit 2mo ago
        you mean the things you think are good, are good. And things that you think are bad, are bad. Everyone feels this way about their things.
        mort96 2mo ago
        No, I meant what I wrote. Some things are good, some things are bad. Some people are wrong. There are plenty of subjective areas where people can disagree without being fundamentally bad people. These things are not those.
        dijit 2mo ago
        I'm impressed that you know everything that's good and bad to be so resolute that you are the person who knows it all, it must be pretty incredible to be the one person on earth who has no doubts at all about what objective good and objective bad is. Maybe we should get you some place safe so we can have you judging humanities actions. What's your position on military spending? Because if we don't spend then our countries get invaded (see: Ukraine) but if we do spend then we're taking money from starving families.. hrm.. I personally have a really hard time, since unfortunately I can empathise with the motivations of others, and everyone has a point, even if I don't agree with it. The thing is, that I'm aware that everyone thinks they're the good guy, the hero, or the "necessary evil for the greater good", and I find it more interesting to understand why they think what they think is better than what I think. The alternative means I've already factored the entire populations needs and circumstances, which, for my tiny meat brain which can only empathise with one person at a time is practically impossible. How did you manage it?
        mort96 2mo ago
        Again, I don't know (and never claimed to know) everything that's good and everything that's bad. But I do know some things that are good and some things that are bad.
        dijit 2mo ago