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Sounds terrible if that is your only car.

by asdff 3mo ago

medler 3mo ago
What is terrible about charging at home from a regular outlet? As long as you average <50-60 miles a day, like most people, you basically never have to go to fast chargers (or gas stations). It’s amazing.
- stavros 3mo ago
  I have a standard plug (not even three phase) and charge 30 kWh in ten hours (overnight). That's around 90 miles, which is plenty. If I'm going on a long trip, I just make sure I start charging from > 50% the previous day, and I'm good. It's trivial to manage the state of charge when you have a charger at home and a planned trip coming up.
  - medler 3mo ago
    In the U.S. our standard outlets are 120V, so you only get about 1kW or so out of them. Plenty for most people, but annoying if you need >50 miles of range a day, or if you want to boil water in an electric kettle. The situation is much better in Europe, and most of the rest of the world, where you have 220+V
Grombobulous 3mo ago
Not really. The average person in America drives about 37 miles a day. EVs gain about 3-5 miles per hour on a household 120V charger. You sleep for about 8 hours and are probably home away from work and errands for an about 12 hours. Do the math: 3 miles per hour for 12 hours is 36 miles. And even if you don’t keep up with your pace, the weekend can act as additional time to charge. Or if you drive more on the weekend, you can basically decide that you’re going to go to a fast charger every 2-4 weeks just like a gas car (or maybe even less frequently than a gas car). Let’s say you drive 50 miles a day but you’re only able to charge up 35 miles per day at home. If your vehicle’s range is 250 miles that means you need to go to a fast charger every 15 days including a little room for reserve power. Also, all of this is even less of a concern if you live in a country with 240V power.
- stavros 3mo ago
  I forgot that the US uses 120 V, that's a bit less convenient, but I agree. I live in a country that uses 240V, and I ~never need to worry about charging. I'll usually intentionally not charge for days/a week because I wait for the battery to go down to 20%.
- asdff 3mo ago
  So you forget to plug in one night and are screwed for work the next day it sounds like
  - abenga 3mo ago
    You are probably never starting from zero on workdays, are you?
    - asdff 2mo ago
      Depends if you did something after work the day before
  - cevn 2mo ago
    It's worked for me for about 10 years. Maybe don't forget if it's so critical that you get to work the next day. Sounds like you have a skill issue
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stavros 3mo ago
That's my only car, and it's the best thing ever. I'm never going back to ICE. I have a normal wall plug in my garage and I charge once or twice a week overnight, and I never need to worry about gas station trips. The fact that I can do 100km with 3 €, even with our expensive electricity, is icing on the cake. If you don't have a charger at home, though, an EV is a chore, I agree.

Sounds terrible if that is your only car.

by asdff 3mo ago

Sounds terrible if that is your only car.

What is terrible about charging at home from a regular outlet? As long as you average <50-60 miles a day, like most people, you basically never have to go to fast chargers (or gas stations). It’s amazing.

stavros 3mo ago
I have a standard plug (not even three phase) and charge 30 kWh in ten hours (overnight). That's around 90 miles, which is plenty. If I'm going on a long trip, I just make sure I start charging from > 50% the previous day, and I'm good. It's trivial to manage the state of charge when you have a charger at home and a planned trip coming up.
- medler 3mo ago
  In the U.S. our standard outlets are 120V, so you only get about 1kW or so out of them. Plenty for most people, but annoying if you need >50 miles of range a day, or if you want to boil water in an electric kettle. The situation is much better in Europe, and most of the rest of the world, where you have 220+V

Grombobulous 3mo ago

Not really. The average person in America drives about 37 miles a day. EVs gain about 3-5 miles per hour on a household 120V charger. You sleep for about 8 hours and are probably home away from work and errands for an about 12 hours. Do the math: 3 miles per hour for 12 hours is 36 miles. And even if you don’t keep up with your pace, the weekend can act as additional time to charge. Or if you drive more on the weekend, you can basically decide that you’re going to go to a fast charger every 2-4 weeks just like a gas car (or maybe even less frequently than a gas car). Let’s say you drive 50 miles a day but you’re only able to charge up 35 miles per day at home. If your vehicle’s range is 250 miles that means you need to go to a fast charger every 15 days including a little room for reserve power. Also, all of this is even less of a concern if you live in a country with 240V power.

stavros 3mo ago
I forgot that the US uses 120 V, that's a bit less convenient, but I agree. I live in a country that uses 240V, and I ~never need to worry about charging. I'll usually intentionally not charge for days/a week because I wait for the battery to go down to 20%.
asdff 3mo ago
So you forget to plug in one night and are screwed for work the next day it sounds like
- abenga 3mo ago
  You are probably never starting from zero on workdays, are you?
  - asdff 2mo ago
    Depends if you did something after work the day before
- cevn 2mo ago
  It's worked for me for about 10 years. Maybe don't forget if it's so critical that you get to work the next day. Sounds like you have a skill issue
- deleted 2mo ago
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stavros 3mo ago

That's my only car, and it's the best thing ever. I'm never going back to ICE. I have a normal wall plug in my garage and I charge once or twice a week overnight, and I never need to worry about gas station trips. The fact that I can do 100km with 3 €, even with our expensive electricity, is icing on the cake. If you don't have a charger at home, though, an EV is a chore, I agree.