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Aren't they still bad at understanding how bicycle frame works? Especially the steering part?
by IsTom 2mo ago
Aren't they still bad at understanding how bicycle frame works? Especially the steering part?
- edaemon 2mo agoYes, but I think the idea here is that most models produce very similar pelicans on bicycles, so a different test might be more useful in gauging the differences in models.
- gegtik 2mo agoMaybe that makes them human.. https://www.booooooom.com/2016/05/09/bicycles-built-based-on-peoples-attempts-to-draw-them-from-memory/ https://www.booooooom.com/2016/05/09/bicycles-built-based-on...
- nozzlegear 2mo agoHumans aren't machines trained on the entire stolen corpus of human knowledge. We expect that a human will do poorly at arbitrary tasks they have no experience doing – especially drawing, which many (most?) humans aren't trained in at all. The same isn't true of AI, where its proponents, priests and proselytizers have spent time, energy and billions of dollars attempting to convince us it can do anything better than humans.
- nozzlegear 2mo agoPelican enjoyers didn't like this one lol
- CrazyStat 2mo agoSam Altman: “GPT-5 is the first time that it really feels like talking to an expert in any topic, like a PhD-level expert.” Elon Musk on Grok: “better than PhD level in everything.”
- runarberg 2mo agoNo. But it reveals something about how this technology works, its statistical properties, from which you can infer the limitations.
- mgfist 2mo agoThat was very fun, thanks for the link
- kees99 2mo agoI've fed a couple of those chicken-scratch sketches to nanobanana with prompt "Treat attached as a technical drawing of a bicycle. Produce photo-realistic image of the actual bike manufactured to that spec. Try to stay close to the input, where possible", and... wow, results are not great.
- gcanyon 2mo agoIt's funny to me, because I have a very strong spacial sense, and a lifetime of riding bikes. To the limit of my ability to draw, I can draw a flawless bicycle, down to the interlocked path the chain takes and the hanger on the derailleur.
- JoeAltmaier 2mo agoI ride a recumbent trike, and the chain path is even more grotesque. I think I could draw it.
- gcanyon 2mo agoI also ride a recumbent: Catrike Expedition. I'm not sure I would get the subtleties of the chain guides correct. What's yours? https://www.catrike.com/expedition https://www.catrike.com/expedition
- JoeAltmaier 2mo agoICE Sprint https://www.icetrikes.co/products/sprint-x-tour-recumbent-trike https://www.icetrikes.co/products/sprint-x-tour-recumbent-tr...
- gcanyon 2mo agoNice!
- whstl 2mo agoI can draw a very good bicycle compared to most, but I attribute that to my obsession with building, fixing, painting and reading non-stop about them as a teenager.
- zh3 2mo agoShhh...you'll alert the models :) Totally agree though, anyone with a vague understanding of how bikes works ignores the pelican because they know the bike is unrideable in the first place.
- sumedh 2mo ago> Shhh...you'll alert the models :) They are listening.
- bfung 2mo agoI don’t know what datasets are available to these LLMs, but I’d imagine if there was training on CAD code, text, and images, a prompt steered towards that probably could get it pretty good. I am not a mechanical engineer, so even prompting well with ME lingo probably will take some effort.
- tyromaniac 2mo agoIn ME lingo they call it "a functioning bicycle"