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Israel is a nuclear power; it can't really be displaced. It sounds like the terms "ingratitude" / "ingrate" are not relevant to your stance and are just emotiv

by gershy 2mo ago

Israel is a nuclear power; it can't really be displaced. It sounds like the terms "ingratitude" / "ingrate" are not relevant to your stance and are just emotive distractions; I suggest we avoid those terms. Israel has a bunch of contested borders with varying levels of international recognition. Britain displaced the ottomans, and it seems you feel they had a valid claim to the previously ottoman lands. Then jews displaced the british - why, to you, does that same validity not apply here?

hardbass 2mo ago
I have said it before, time. No sane Brit is trying to expel Normans and their descendants back to France. Israeli criminal robbery of others land literally happened in literal living memory. The same way South African crimes are still an active issue. Ingratitude is the only possible term when a group begins launching terrorist attacks on a country freely opening up its own lands for immigration to it and then imposing some natural immigration controls. Why is Israel trying to expand into Lebanon? What claims does it have there? Israel's statements are all bullshit, it never owned any of these lands and stole them from the Brits and now stealing from Palestinians, Lebanese and soon by their own admission Syrians and Turks too.
- gershy 2mo ago
  - I assume you agree israel can't be physically displaced - I assume you agree that as britain's displacement of the ottomans was valid, so too is the jewish terrorist/renegade displacement of britain - I assume you agree britain was not acting altruistically, given its installation of a hitler ally as the jewish partner in diplomacy From the jewish perspective, britain allowing jews access to their own homeland is not an act meriting a response of gratitude. The remaining concern is regarding expulsion - I'd rather discuss this directly and not by analogy. Is there a particular large-scale instance of israel expelling some people which you feel is particularly unjustifiable?

by gershy 2mo ago

hardbass 2mo ago

I have said it before, time. No sane Brit is trying to expel Normans and their descendants back to France. Israeli criminal robbery of others land literally happened in literal living memory. The same way South African crimes are still an active issue. Ingratitude is the only possible term when a group begins launching terrorist attacks on a country freely opening up its own lands for immigration to it and then imposing some natural immigration controls. Why is Israel trying to expand into Lebanon? What claims does it have there? Israel's statements are all bullshit, it never owned any of these lands and stole them from the Brits and now stealing from Palestinians, Lebanese and soon by their own admission Syrians and Turks too.

gershy 2mo ago
- I assume you agree israel can't be physically displaced - I assume you agree that as britain's displacement of the ottomans was valid, so too is the jewish terrorist/renegade displacement of britain - I assume you agree britain was not acting altruistically, given its installation of a hitler ally as the jewish partner in diplomacy From the jewish perspective, britain allowing jews access to their own homeland is not an act meriting a response of gratitude. The remaining concern is regarding expulsion - I'd rather discuss this directly and not by analogy. Is there a particular large-scale instance of israel expelling some people which you feel is particularly unjustifiable?