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"It did have a moreish quality that could trigger compulsive redosing for some users, but it was also easy to get." What an odd way of saying that it's addicti

by elmer2 2mo ago

"It did have a moreish quality that could trigger compulsive redosing for some users, but it was also easy to get." What an odd way of saying that it's addictive.

cluckindan 2mo ago
Almost any thing humans enjoy is addictive to some people.
- Joel_Mckay 2mo ago
  There are a lot of exotic compounds now, and the law doesn't cover many of them. However, the human brain has finite known chemistry (if I recall it is under 14 types of possible highs excluding hallucinogens), and note many malformed neurotransmitters from Erythroxylum coca can make people sociopathic or psychotic during the 10 month average withdrawal period. The schizophrenic symptoms a highly poisonous Datura stramonium family causes has almost no one lining up to ever experience a nightmare trip rolling in their own excrement for 10 days. However, some native tribes still guide young folk through the experience as a rite of passage ceremony. Addiction is a nuisance by comparison, but some experiences go well beyond synthetic catharsis or a chemical lobotomy. Most drugs are legal in my country now, but it hasn't made people healthier or more responsible. Most of these plants grow naturally in many areas, and there are worse things around... which is why one should always garden with gloves on, and never burn unknown greenery. =3
- Aurornis 2mo ago
  Not the same. A substance that literally travels into your dopamine system and modifies it is going to be more addictive than eating some sugar or playing a slot machine Bad false equivalence.
  - cluckindan 2mo ago
    That is not true. All forms of addictive behavior are mediated by the same mechanism: the delta-FosB variant of the FosB protein. Drugs, sex, food, gambling. All the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSB#DeltaFosB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSB#DeltaFosB
petesergeant 2mo ago
I had this exact phrasing ready to paste in the comments. I do wonder if it's describing doing more of it in the moment, rather than over time.
- freeone3000 2mo ago
  Yeah. Addiction is usually long-term. Compulsive redosing is taking another unplanned dose of the drug while still high.
  - pasquinelli 2mo ago
    like the difference between someone who intended to have 3 drinks, but once they're 2 drinks in it makes them want to have 3 more drinks, and the familiar alcoholic.
podgietaru 2mo ago
Very peep-show(uk) coded. “I tell you what this crack is really moreish” https://youtu.be/tAlPwnkQURg?is=bkeM3A4zbVRDVJRb https://youtu.be/tAlPwnkQURg?is=bkeM3A4zbVRDVJRb
fecal_henge 2mo ago
I heard it was a variety they have in southern Spain that is particularly morish.
ryukoposting 2mo ago
It's a very specific way of saying "addictive," which I appreciate. Different drugs are addictive for different reasons, and redosing is triggered by different physiological inputs. Compulsive redosing refers to a short-term addictive quality. It feels good so you take more. Addictive can mean a lot of things. Opiates have agonizing, long-lasting withdrawal effects that can trigger redosing over the course of months or years. That's also a meaning of "addictive" but one that is intentionally not included by the author's wording.

by elmer2 2mo ago

"It did have a moreish quality that could trigger compulsive redosing for some users, but it was also easy to get." What an odd way of saying that it's addictive.

cluckindan 2mo ago

Almost any thing humans enjoy is addictive to some people.

Joel_Mckay 2mo ago
There are a lot of exotic compounds now, and the law doesn't cover many of them. However, the human brain has finite known chemistry (if I recall it is under 14 types of possible highs excluding hallucinogens), and note many malformed neurotransmitters from Erythroxylum coca can make people sociopathic or psychotic during the 10 month average withdrawal period. The schizophrenic symptoms a highly poisonous Datura stramonium family causes has almost no one lining up to ever experience a nightmare trip rolling in their own excrement for 10 days. However, some native tribes still guide young folk through the experience as a rite of passage ceremony. Addiction is a nuisance by comparison, but some experiences go well beyond synthetic catharsis or a chemical lobotomy. Most drugs are legal in my country now, but it hasn't made people healthier or more responsible. Most of these plants grow naturally in many areas, and there are worse things around... which is why one should always garden with gloves on, and never burn unknown greenery. =3
Aurornis 2mo ago
Not the same. A substance that literally travels into your dopamine system and modifies it is going to be more addictive than eating some sugar or playing a slot machine Bad false equivalence.
- cluckindan 2mo ago
  That is not true. All forms of addictive behavior are mediated by the same mechanism: the delta-FosB variant of the FosB protein. Drugs, sex, food, gambling. All the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSB#DeltaFosB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSB#DeltaFosB

petesergeant 2mo ago

I had this exact phrasing ready to paste in the comments. I do wonder if it's describing doing more of it in the moment, rather than over time.

freeone3000 2mo ago
Yeah. Addiction is usually long-term. Compulsive redosing is taking another unplanned dose of the drug while still high.
- pasquinelli 2mo ago
  like the difference between someone who intended to have 3 drinks, but once they're 2 drinks in it makes them want to have 3 more drinks, and the familiar alcoholic.

podgietaru 2mo ago

Very peep-show(uk) coded. “I tell you what this crack is really moreish” https://youtu.be/tAlPwnkQURg?is=bkeM3A4zbVRDVJRb https://youtu.be/tAlPwnkQURg?is=bkeM3A4zbVRDVJRb

fecal_henge 2mo ago

I heard it was a variety they have in southern Spain that is particularly morish.

ryukoposting 2mo ago

It's a very specific way of saying "addictive," which I appreciate. Different drugs are addictive for different reasons, and redosing is triggered by different physiological inputs. Compulsive redosing refers to a short-term addictive quality. It feels good so you take more. Addictive can mean a lot of things. Opiates have agonizing, long-lasting withdrawal effects that can trigger redosing over the course of months or years. That's also a meaning of "addictive" but one that is intentionally not included by the author's wording.