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Let us assume a person cannot change society, they simply do not have the leverage, even if they are a billionaire or most politicians. This is a systems proble

Let us assume a person cannot change society, they simply do not have the leverage, even if they are a billionaire or most politicians. This is a systems problem, requiring enormous investment of time and resources to change trajectories of. Therefore, the choices available are to continue to live in a low trust society, or move to a high trust society and minimize your exposure to low trust society impact on your life. It's unfortunate. I would very much like to be wrong, please correct me if I am mistaken. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-where-people-trust-each-other-most-by-country/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-where-people-trust-e... https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/self-reported-trust-attitudes https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/self-reported-trust-attit...

landedgentry 3mo ago
This data conflicts with my image of Japan and China, and I wonder where the discrepancy lies.
- toomuchtodo 3mo ago
  I cannot speak to China, but my recent personal experience is that Japan is high trust throughout Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka. Would love to hear about the trust situation in China from anywhere who has recent ground truth.
- perpetuallunch 3mo ago
  The propagandised idea that living in China means living under an oppressive communist regime, runs counter to the countries wild success at pretty much everything it does.
  - landedgentry 3mo ago
    I don't think success directly translates into high trust. I think of China as a hypercompetitive place, which to me should mean lower trust.
    - perpetuallunch 3mo ago
      Explain why hyper competitiveness should mean lower trust? Doesn’t competition imply rule and order? The other direction is merely organised crime, which tends to have very few big players.
      - GlacierFox 3mo ago
        "Doesn’t competition imply rule and order?" What? No, how have you formulated that?
  - archagon 3mo ago
    Hey, remember Naomi Wu? She used to post a lot here. I wonder whatever happened to her?
    - perpetuallunch 3mo ago
      [flagged]
    - bryan_w 3mo ago
      Good point. We can always point to Naomi Wu as an real life example of why China is NOT living in the future. She is a good example of why we would never want to replicate what China is doing

landedgentry 3mo ago

This data conflicts with my image of Japan and China, and I wonder where the discrepancy lies.

toomuchtodo 3mo ago
I cannot speak to China, but my recent personal experience is that Japan is high trust throughout Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka. Would love to hear about the trust situation in China from anywhere who has recent ground truth.
perpetuallunch 3mo ago
The propagandised idea that living in China means living under an oppressive communist regime, runs counter to the countries wild success at pretty much everything it does.
- landedgentry 3mo ago
  I don't think success directly translates into high trust. I think of China as a hypercompetitive place, which to me should mean lower trust.
  - perpetuallunch 3mo ago
    Explain why hyper competitiveness should mean lower trust? Doesn’t competition imply rule and order? The other direction is merely organised crime, which tends to have very few big players.
    - GlacierFox 3mo ago
      "Doesn’t competition imply rule and order?" What? No, how have you formulated that?
- archagon 3mo ago
  Hey, remember Naomi Wu? She used to post a lot here. I wonder whatever happened to her?
  - perpetuallunch 3mo ago
    [flagged]
  - bryan_w 3mo ago
    Good point. We can always point to Naomi Wu as an real life example of why China is NOT living in the future. She is a good example of why we would never want to replicate what China is doing