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> The statement that Christianity is directly responsible for - or has anything to do with abolishment of slavery is absolutely baseless. I politely invite you

by arkey 2mo ago

> The statement that Christianity is directly responsible for - or has anything to do with abolishment of slavery is absolutely baseless. I politely invite you to do your own research, so you don't have to take my word for it. > What's right or wrong doesn't change one bit depending on what other people think or what some random book says. So you do acknowledge an absolute of good and evil, right and wrong. Good. We got somewhere. In regards to the rest, you're drastically limited by your ignorance and misunderstanding of basic Christian concepts, most probably conditioned by your radical prejudices and already formed opinions. This conversation has become absurd in the sense that you're trying to convince me, a Christian, about what motivates me, or moves me, or about my understanding of reality and absolutes. Keep your prejudices, you're free to decide, and you're responsible of your decisions. You still haven't directly answered my question. Have a good one.

Johanx64 2mo ago
> You still haven't directly answered my question. I did actually! > So you do acknowledge an absolute of good and evil, right and wrong. Good. We got somewhere. It's not an absolute. "Right and wrong" exists only within framing of living beings or atleast the humans with a functional brain. And humans who don't believe Santa and alike will derive their moral framework from simple axioms (such as pain and suffering is bad) that are universal across living beings on Earth arriving at something along the lines of Negative Utilitarianism. > This conversation has become absurd in the sense that you're trying to convince me, a Christian, about what motivates me, or moves me, or about my understanding of reality and absolutes. The absurd part is that you think this conversation is about you. Not everything revolves around you. Ground breaking thought, I know. > In regards to the rest, you're drastically limited by your ignorance and misunderstanding of basic Christian concepts, most probably conditioned by your radical prejudices and already formed opinions. So you're attacking me instead of refuting my argument or providing a well reasoned counterpoint. Not that I expected more from a Christian. Sigh

by arkey 2mo ago

Johanx64 2mo ago

> You still haven't directly answered my question. I did actually! > So you do acknowledge an absolute of good and evil, right and wrong. Good. We got somewhere. It's not an absolute. "Right and wrong" exists only within framing of living beings or atleast the humans with a functional brain. And humans who don't believe Santa and alike will derive their moral framework from simple axioms (such as pain and suffering is bad) that are universal across living beings on Earth arriving at something along the lines of Negative Utilitarianism. > This conversation has become absurd in the sense that you're trying to convince me, a Christian, about what motivates me, or moves me, or about my understanding of reality and absolutes. The absurd part is that you think this conversation is about you. Not everything revolves around you. Ground breaking thought, I know. > In regards to the rest, you're drastically limited by your ignorance and misunderstanding of basic Christian concepts, most probably conditioned by your radical prejudices and already formed opinions. So you're attacking me instead of refuting my argument or providing a well reasoned counterpoint. Not that I expected more from a Christian. Sigh