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Not about BSD, but anybody else using side tabs in FF with that site? Somehow the rendering of that dashed line at the top runs across into the "pinned tabs" s

by wormius 2mo ago

Not about BSD, but anybody else using side tabs in FF with that site? Somehow the rendering of that dashed line at the top runs across into the "pinned tabs" section. (Linux/Wayland/Debian). Curious if anyone else is seeing it.

saghm 2mo ago
I just tried opening it (Linux/Wayland/Arch, and I already had number of tabs pinned to the side on Firefox), and I don't seem to have the same issue. I do have some custom styling in my Firefox though (legacy userChrome.css) and have it using my system theme, so that might cause some difference in addition to whatever differences might be in our compositors (not sure if yours is using kwin; I'm also guessing we probably have different versions of the things we do have in common given our distros)
- wormius 2mo ago
  Yeah that could be. Plenty of issues could cause it (though I am using KWin as compositor). Maybe it's fixed by now, or just a glitch on my end. EDIT: This is weird. My monitor has different modes including sRGB. I had it in a gaming mode (higher contrast, etc...) and it shows then, but in sRGB it doesn't show. I took screenshots and when viewing there, regardless of screen mode, it's rendering fine, so clearly it must be a monitor issue of some sort. Odd that it would render in every non-sRGB mode, but be fine in sRGB.
  - wormius 2mo ago
    Messing more with it, it seems to be related to the combo of sRGB being less bright/contrast than the non-sRGB modes, thus not enough to see the dots... Zooming in (ctrl-wheelup) on the page causes it to disappear after the dots scale to the next size. Friend pointed out I can disable and test the css, which I did. I scaled to 2, and it's gone. So it's a scaling issue. Then tried Vivaldi, same thing, turns out, it's gotta be a scaling issue with KDE/Kwin. It also only does it with 1440, not on 1080 (or 900, which I also tested). They're all 16:9 so it must not be a fractional scaling issue, maybe density just gets weird or it's the monitor in combo. I have no idea whey I'm sharing just found it interesting in case anyone else wonders or notices.
    - saghm 2mo ago
      Stuff like this always ends up being way more complicated to my than I initially expect! In a certain sense, we're a bit spoiled by how all of these complex pieces do actually work the way they're intended most of the time, which makes it easy to forget just how many layers there are. I was also on a 2560x1440 monitor, and I had 1.5x scaling configured. I doubt I would have even thought of suggesting you check what mode you monitor was in even if I was on my desktop rather than my laptop. > I have no idea whey I'm sharing just found it interesting in case anyone else wonders or notices. I actually really like that you've followed up with all of the new details you found! I've been on the other side of stuff like this enough to appreciate when the DenverCoder9's of the world share their wisdom: https://xkcd.com/979/ https://xkcd.com/979/
hulitu 2mo ago
> Somehow the rendering of that dashed line at the top runs across into the "pinned tabs" section Graphics programming is very hard. Borland tried to improve the situation in the 90s with it graphics library, but little progress has been made since then. One of the most difficult things today is finding out the coordinates of the drawing area. /s

by wormius 2mo ago

saghm 2mo ago

I just tried opening it (Linux/Wayland/Arch, and I already had number of tabs pinned to the side on Firefox), and I don't seem to have the same issue. I do have some custom styling in my Firefox though (legacy userChrome.css) and have it using my system theme, so that might cause some difference in addition to whatever differences might be in our compositors (not sure if yours is using kwin; I'm also guessing we probably have different versions of the things we do have in common given our distros)

wormius 2mo ago
Yeah that could be. Plenty of issues could cause it (though I am using KWin as compositor). Maybe it's fixed by now, or just a glitch on my end. EDIT: This is weird. My monitor has different modes including sRGB. I had it in a gaming mode (higher contrast, etc...) and it shows then, but in sRGB it doesn't show. I took screenshots and when viewing there, regardless of screen mode, it's rendering fine, so clearly it must be a monitor issue of some sort. Odd that it would render in every non-sRGB mode, but be fine in sRGB.
- wormius 2mo ago
  Messing more with it, it seems to be related to the combo of sRGB being less bright/contrast than the non-sRGB modes, thus not enough to see the dots... Zooming in (ctrl-wheelup) on the page causes it to disappear after the dots scale to the next size. Friend pointed out I can disable and test the css, which I did. I scaled to 2, and it's gone. So it's a scaling issue. Then tried Vivaldi, same thing, turns out, it's gotta be a scaling issue with KDE/Kwin. It also only does it with 1440, not on 1080 (or 900, which I also tested). They're all 16:9 so it must not be a fractional scaling issue, maybe density just gets weird or it's the monitor in combo. I have no idea whey I'm sharing just found it interesting in case anyone else wonders or notices.
  - saghm 2mo ago
    Stuff like this always ends up being way more complicated to my than I initially expect! In a certain sense, we're a bit spoiled by how all of these complex pieces do actually work the way they're intended most of the time, which makes it easy to forget just how many layers there are. I was also on a 2560x1440 monitor, and I had 1.5x scaling configured. I doubt I would have even thought of suggesting you check what mode you monitor was in even if I was on my desktop rather than my laptop. > I have no idea whey I'm sharing just found it interesting in case anyone else wonders or notices. I actually really like that you've followed up with all of the new details you found! I've been on the other side of stuff like this enough to appreciate when the DenverCoder9's of the world share their wisdom: https://xkcd.com/979/ https://xkcd.com/979/

hulitu 2mo ago

> Somehow the rendering of that dashed line at the top runs across into the "pinned tabs" section Graphics programming is very hard. Borland tried to improve the situation in the 90s with it graphics library, but little progress has been made since then. One of the most difficult things today is finding out the coordinates of the drawing area. /s