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> This claim that football has always been the "people's game" is in the end sanctimonious romantic nonsense. I never said that. > If we're talking about game
by scott_w 2mo ago
> This claim that football has always been the "people's game" is in the end sanctimonious romantic nonsense.
I never said that.
> If we're talking about games out in the park, then football is "part of a working class community"
I never said that though it’s true, it’s not necessary for my argument.
> Even if we go back a hundred years, the major clubs were owned by factory owners and other such types.
True but irrelevant to my argument.
> If you want working class football, then it's well outside the premier leagues and even first divisions. But unfortunately that's the stuff most people are interested in watching.
Modern day Premier League attendance is a mix, depends on the club and it’s harder to assess because the class makeup of the UK has changed a lot in the past 50 years.
> Anyway, I've probably written way too much on this subject.
You have, most of it total nonsense. Best you stop before you show yourself up even more.
- nephihaha 2mo ago> You have, most of it total nonsense. Best you stop before you show yourself up even more. I know far more about the early history of association football than you do, pal. I was good friends with Professor Grant Jarvie's parents for years, before they passed away. Prof. Jarvie is the premier authority on sports history in Scotland. I learnt far more off him than I ever would off you, and we've discussed early soccer together. I've also researched some of these things personally. By research, I mean looking at original physical documents in the National Library of Scotland, not Google and Wikipedia. If all you have to bring to the table is personal abuse, then that is on you, not me.