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Interesting that you apparently can’t distinguish between puberty blockers and HRT. When women use puberty blockers, it does not make them develop male traits.

Interesting that you apparently can’t distinguish between puberty blockers and HRT. When women use puberty blockers, it does not make them develop male traits. What’s even more interesting is that you value Reddit as a citable source. What other valuable resources have you used to inform your opinion?

cubefox 2mo ago
Interesting that you apparently can't distinguish between children and women. If you think the Reddit report is fake, say so explicitly.
- foco_tubi 2mo ago
  Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Oof.
  - cubefox 2mo ago
    > Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? They will fail to develop their respective sex-typical traits, which in turn is typical of the opposite sex. > Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Is there any reason to think the Reddit report is fake? If not, it is fine for me to refer to it. Besides, you were the one asking for a reference. Do you think she should have posted this to the arxiv? You are moving the goal posts.
    - foco_tubi 2mo ago
      That’s not how puberty works. Delaying puberty doesn’t make a child develop the “opposite sex’s” puberty. A boy on puberty blockers doesn’t start growing breasts because of the blockers, and a girl doesn’t develop a deeper voice because of the blockers. Puberty blockers pause sex-hormone-driven development. They don’t replace testosterone with estrogen or vice versa. The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. I’m not implying that the single Reddit post you refer to is fake. I’m stating that relying on a single Reddit post as the basis of your entire argument is factually weak.
      - cubefox 2mo ago
        > The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. It is, to a certain degree. An man/woman who didn't develop several of their respective sex traits will automatically appear more feminine/masculine because these are polar opposites.
        foco_tubi 2mo ago
        That is entirely subjective, from a biological standpoint you couldn’t be more wrong
        cubefox 2mo ago
        Quite the contrary, it makes perfect biological sense for all kinds of sexually dimorphic animals.
        foco_tubi 2mo ago
        Perhaps it makes sense to you, but I’m not surprised by that at this point

cubefox 2mo ago

Interesting that you apparently can't distinguish between children and women. If you think the Reddit report is fake, say so explicitly.

foco_tubi 2mo ago
Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Oof.
- cubefox 2mo ago
  > Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? They will fail to develop their respective sex-typical traits, which in turn is typical of the opposite sex. > Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Is there any reason to think the Reddit report is fake? If not, it is fine for me to refer to it. Besides, you were the one asking for a reference. Do you think she should have posted this to the arxiv? You are moving the goal posts.
  - foco_tubi 2mo ago
    That’s not how puberty works. Delaying puberty doesn’t make a child develop the “opposite sex’s” puberty. A boy on puberty blockers doesn’t start growing breasts because of the blockers, and a girl doesn’t develop a deeper voice because of the blockers. Puberty blockers pause sex-hormone-driven development. They don’t replace testosterone with estrogen or vice versa. The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. I’m not implying that the single Reddit post you refer to is fake. I’m stating that relying on a single Reddit post as the basis of your entire argument is factually weak.
    - cubefox 2mo ago
      > The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. It is, to a certain degree. An man/woman who didn't develop several of their respective sex traits will automatically appear more feminine/masculine because these are polar opposites.
      - foco_tubi 2mo ago
        That is entirely subjective, from a biological standpoint you couldn’t be more wrong
        cubefox 2mo ago
        Quite the contrary, it makes perfect biological sense for all kinds of sexually dimorphic animals.
        foco_tubi 2mo ago
        Perhaps it makes sense to you, but I’m not surprised by that at this point