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> have we seen great new products or improvements in the products we use over the past 12,24,36 months This sentiment drives me nuts. I'm on a handful of soft

> have we seen great new products or improvements in the products we use over the past 12,24,36 months This sentiment drives me nuts. I'm on a handful of software dev subreddits and the amount of new products popping up has tripled since these tools became available. I also don't understand how you'd expect to measure this. Is there some single list of all software that's been released that annotates whether AI was used? Do you have some feed of every project that hits GitHub that you're meticulously tracking? The idea that you personally should have seen these improvements or they didn't happen is wild to me. I work in healthcare. Where the # of products has skyrocketed due to these tools. Some are bad, some are good. But to say that nothing has come out of it is just objectively not true.

flyinglizard 2mo ago
Products, yes, because the barrier to making a product had fallen off a cliff (both in developing the software and the marketing/sales fluff around it). But are those products converting to business results? Are those quality products someone will pay for? In other words, is anyone using these products or is that becoming like the spammy App Stores with tons of low effort stuff?
- mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
  > But are those products converting to business results? Are those quality products someone will pay for? Yes. Unequivocally. I'm in healthcare. I've sat in 20-30 different demos over the last 2 years, all of which involve AI in some capacity and at least half of those were solutions that had already built a customer base. But a lot of devs won't know that because they aren't sitting in meetings where product decisions are made. I'm in a unique position, but that doesn't meet it's not happening.
pants2 2mo ago
There's a staggering amount of new, basic software which often goes unmaintained quickly because no discipline was needed to build it. But I don't think we're seeing, for example, Adobe releasing new creative suite tools faster than before. This isn't something I can quite quantify, though.
- Henchman21 2mo ago
  It feels like you’re saying “SNR changed; now there’s tons of noise”?
- mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
  What industry are you in and what's your role? There are new EMR's popping up overnight in healthcare. And that's my point. There's no way a person can say that it's not happening because they personally aren't seeing it. Thinking in terms of "Well why aren't the big companies building software quicker" answers it's own questions. It wasn't the coding that was making it slow.
  - bluefirebrand 2mo ago
    > There are new EMR's popping up overnight in healthcare That's probably the last place I want AI generated bullshit to be popping up overnight
    - mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
      > That's probably the last place I want AI generated bullshit to be popping up overnight Are you in healthcare? Do you understand the ways in which these tools are being used in that domain? Obviously not, so your opinion is meaningless.
      - brazukadev 2mo ago
        He is definitely a customer of people using these tools and his concern is genuine. His opinion is more meaningful than yours if you are creating and trying to sell those tools.
twister2920 2mo ago
> I'm on a handful of software dev subreddits and the amount of new products popping up has tripled since these tools became available. > I also don't understand how you'd expect to measure this I'm confused, are we accepting anecdata or no?
- mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
  You can't prove a negative like that. So whether it's anecdotal or not is irrelevant.
  - twister2920 2mo ago
    well exactly. it's impossible to prove the negative so why don't you actually prove the positive (that AI is driving an increase in productivity) instead of throwing out more personal opinions?

flyinglizard 2mo ago

Products, yes, because the barrier to making a product had fallen off a cliff (both in developing the software and the marketing/sales fluff around it). But are those products converting to business results? Are those quality products someone will pay for? In other words, is anyone using these products or is that becoming like the spammy App Stores with tons of low effort stuff?

mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
> But are those products converting to business results? Are those quality products someone will pay for? Yes. Unequivocally. I'm in healthcare. I've sat in 20-30 different demos over the last 2 years, all of which involve AI in some capacity and at least half of those were solutions that had already built a customer base. But a lot of devs won't know that because they aren't sitting in meetings where product decisions are made. I'm in a unique position, but that doesn't meet it's not happening.

pants2 2mo ago

There's a staggering amount of new, basic software which often goes unmaintained quickly because no discipline was needed to build it. But I don't think we're seeing, for example, Adobe releasing new creative suite tools faster than before. This isn't something I can quite quantify, though.

Henchman21 2mo ago
It feels like you’re saying “SNR changed; now there’s tons of noise”?
mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
What industry are you in and what's your role? There are new EMR's popping up overnight in healthcare. And that's my point. There's no way a person can say that it's not happening because they personally aren't seeing it. Thinking in terms of "Well why aren't the big companies building software quicker" answers it's own questions. It wasn't the coding that was making it slow.
- bluefirebrand 2mo ago
  > There are new EMR's popping up overnight in healthcare That's probably the last place I want AI generated bullshit to be popping up overnight
  - mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
    > That's probably the last place I want AI generated bullshit to be popping up overnight Are you in healthcare? Do you understand the ways in which these tools are being used in that domain? Obviously not, so your opinion is meaningless.
    - brazukadev 2mo ago
      He is definitely a customer of people using these tools and his concern is genuine. His opinion is more meaningful than yours if you are creating and trying to sell those tools.

twister2920 2mo ago

> I'm on a handful of software dev subreddits and the amount of new products popping up has tripled since these tools became available. > I also don't understand how you'd expect to measure this I'm confused, are we accepting anecdata or no?

mexicocitinluez 2mo ago
You can't prove a negative like that. So whether it's anecdotal or not is irrelevant.
- twister2920 2mo ago
  well exactly. it's impossible to prove the negative so why don't you actually prove the positive (that AI is driving an increase in productivity) instead of throwing out more personal opinions?