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Comparing soda to cigarettes is ridiculous. People like soda, and in moderation, it is completely fine. There is no reason to single out sugary sodas to try to

Comparing soda to cigarettes is ridiculous. People like soda, and in moderation, it is completely fine. There is no reason to single out sugary sodas to try to "solve" obesity. It is a consumer problem, not a product problem.

DangitBobby 2mo ago
We all know individual consumer action could technically make the difference between an obesity epidemic and a healthy country. We all also know that individual consumers will literally never take that action, be it health or any of the other myriad ways that corporations are fucking us over. It's time to stop suggesting it. The point of governments and other central organizations is to coordinate, because large groups of people can't coordinate, and without coordination collective action just doesn't happen.
- matchbok3 2mo ago
  Sorry, I don't need collective action to tell me what soda to buy, or what beverage to consume. What a silly notion. I take action myself to moderate my soda intake all the time. Your assertion that this is not possible is simply absurd. The aspect you are missing, as always in these discussions about government regulation, is the role of parenting and family in the job of nurturing healthy lifestyles. And no, corporations are not "fucking" anyone over. They are making something people want. The problem lies elsewhere.
  - tom2026hn 2mo ago
    “I take action myself to moderate my soda intake all the time.” Strong personal self-control doesn’t mean public policy isn’t necessary--if most people could exercise self-control, obesity rates wouldn’t be a public health crisis. “The aspect you’re missing...is the role of parenting and family in fostering healthy lifestyles.” Parents can’t compete with the billions of dollars corporations spend each year on advertising aimed at children. “Corporations aren’t ‘fucking’ anyone over. They’re making something people want.” Why would they spend massive amounts on advertising to “persuade”--or even mislead--consumers if they were merely meeting existing demand? “The problem lies elsewhere.” Regardless of where the problem lies, corporations have a responsibility not to exacerbate it through harmful marketing.
tom2026hn 2mo ago
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DangitBobby 2mo ago

We all know individual consumer action could technically make the difference between an obesity epidemic and a healthy country. We all also know that individual consumers will literally never take that action, be it health or any of the other myriad ways that corporations are fucking us over. It's time to stop suggesting it. The point of governments and other central organizations is to coordinate, because large groups of people can't coordinate, and without coordination collective action just doesn't happen.

matchbok3 2mo ago
Sorry, I don't need collective action to tell me what soda to buy, or what beverage to consume. What a silly notion. I take action myself to moderate my soda intake all the time. Your assertion that this is not possible is simply absurd. The aspect you are missing, as always in these discussions about government regulation, is the role of parenting and family in the job of nurturing healthy lifestyles. And no, corporations are not "fucking" anyone over. They are making something people want. The problem lies elsewhere.
- tom2026hn 2mo ago
  “I take action myself to moderate my soda intake all the time.” Strong personal self-control doesn’t mean public policy isn’t necessary--if most people could exercise self-control, obesity rates wouldn’t be a public health crisis. “The aspect you’re missing...is the role of parenting and family in fostering healthy lifestyles.” Parents can’t compete with the billions of dollars corporations spend each year on advertising aimed at children. “Corporations aren’t ‘fucking’ anyone over. They’re making something people want.” Why would they spend massive amounts on advertising to “persuade”--or even mislead--consumers if they were merely meeting existing demand? “The problem lies elsewhere.” Regardless of where the problem lies, corporations have a responsibility not to exacerbate it through harmful marketing.

tom2026hn 2mo ago

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