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Aren't there a ton of products already doing this? Why not just use claude Cowork? Surely they're simpler/better/more featureful/developed than the alternatives

Aren't there a ton of products already doing this? Why not just use claude Cowork? Surely they're simpler/better/more featureful/developed than the alternatives here? What advantage does this have? Would love to see a 'QM vs Cowork' comparison!

bellowsgulch 2mo ago
People are building state-of-the-art harnesses in private right now that outperform the average developers' harnesses, people using Claude Code, OpenCode, etc.
kang 2mo ago
this one is trying to cashin on the 'multiplayer' keyword after the buzz that 'no one has cracked multiplayer yet'. well the ui sucks and is not it.
- recsv-heredoc 2mo ago
  Kinda makes sense. Multiplayer is at odds with async, generally speaking - and LLMs/agents really see their productivity rise up with async work.
  - samtheprogram 2mo ago
    I disagree with this. If agents are doing asynchronous work, it's really an artifact anyone should be able to look at.
    - recsv-heredoc 2mo ago
      Realtime multiplayer - to clarify the position.
- andersonpico 2mo ago
  what does multiplayer means in this context?
omederos 2mo ago
maybe you want to use a different model?
walrus01 2mo ago
> Why not just use claude Cowork? Because people want to be able to do things like use their own clients of pi or opencode with LLMs they run themselves, such as the just released deepseek v4 flash 0731, not permanently tied to an Anthropic ecosystem of non-open-weight LLMs and pay forever per token.
- ignore_prev 2mo ago
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nozzlegear 2mo ago
> Why not just use claude Cowork? Many people don't want to support a company pushing for regulatory capture.
- browningstreet 2mo ago
  Check the speakers at the startup school that happened just last weekend…
lukasco 2mo ago
> Would love to see a 'QM vs Cowork' comparison! It feels like the big thing they are touting here is the shared company brain. Not clear to me though, how that brain is developed when each person has their own harness. (I did only skim the docs.) And it still has the issue of: if the agent is acting as me, then security wise it can do anything I can do. Maybe that's why they are recommending for startups. But yes, comparison would be helpful.

bellowsgulch 2mo ago

People are building state-of-the-art harnesses in private right now that outperform the average developers' harnesses, people using Claude Code, OpenCode, etc.

kang 2mo ago

this one is trying to cashin on the 'multiplayer' keyword after the buzz that 'no one has cracked multiplayer yet'. well the ui sucks and is not it.

recsv-heredoc 2mo ago
Kinda makes sense. Multiplayer is at odds with async, generally speaking - and LLMs/agents really see their productivity rise up with async work.
- samtheprogram 2mo ago
  I disagree with this. If agents are doing asynchronous work, it's really an artifact anyone should be able to look at.
  - recsv-heredoc 2mo ago
    Realtime multiplayer - to clarify the position.
andersonpico 2mo ago
what does multiplayer means in this context?

omederos 2mo ago

maybe you want to use a different model?

walrus01 2mo ago

> Why not just use claude Cowork? Because people want to be able to do things like use their own clients of pi or opencode with LLMs they run themselves, such as the just released deepseek v4 flash 0731, not permanently tied to an Anthropic ecosystem of non-open-weight LLMs and pay forever per token.

ignore_prev 2mo ago
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nozzlegear 2mo ago

> Why not just use claude Cowork? Many people don't want to support a company pushing for regulatory capture.

browningstreet 2mo ago
Check the speakers at the startup school that happened just last weekend…

lukasco 2mo ago

> Would love to see a 'QM vs Cowork' comparison! It feels like the big thing they are touting here is the shared company brain. Not clear to me though, how that brain is developed when each person has their own harness. (I did only skim the docs.) And it still has the issue of: if the agent is acting as me, then security wise it can do anything I can do. Maybe that's why they are recommending for startups. But yes, comparison would be helpful.