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Interesting to see they shipped an "anti-slop" taste skill: > description: Anti-slop frontend skill for landing pages, portfolios, and redesigns. The agent rea

Interesting to see they shipped an "anti-slop" taste skill: > description: Anti-slop frontend skill for landing pages, portfolios, and redesigns. The agent reads the brief, infers the right design direction, and ships interfaces that do not look templated. Real design systems when applicable, audit-first on redesigns, strict pre-flight check. > - *PREMIUM-CONSUMER PALETTE BAN (mandatory, second-most-recurring AI-tell):* - For premium-consumer briefs (cookware, wellness, artisan, luxury, heritage craft, DTC home goods, etc.)... - Backgrounds: `#f5f1ea`, `#f7f5f1`... > Landing pages and portfolios are *visual products*. Text-only pages with fake-screenshot divs are slop. https://github.com/yc-software/qm/blob/7f2c916360f1797a8ff2a77ce2ce40c5fabab087/skills-seed/taste-skill/references/tasteskill.md https://github.com/yc-software/qm/blob/7f2c916360f1797a8ff2a...

thoughtpeddler 2mo ago
Doesn’t this just lead to a new “basin of tastelessness” that, sure, looks different from current slop, but is itself just eventually slop all the same?
- namuol 2mo ago
  So just an accelerated version of the standard UI design trends cycle (which is bad).
- brianjking 2mo ago
  Yes.
nojs 2mo ago
> Em-dash (—) is COMPLETELY banned. It is the LLM's signature stylistic crutch and it is the #1 visual Tell in production tests. There is no "limited use" allowance, no "natural language frequency" allowance, no "in body copy is fine" allowance. None. I guess the em dash is really dead.
- dgunay 2mo ago
  I have been seeing people use it more who I am fairly confident are not otherwise using AI to write public-facing communications. It's almost like there's a minor movement to try and reclaim it. Either that or it's somehow getting past my AIdar.
- dlopes7 2mo ago
  And yet they use it on the README
- rpdillon 2mo ago
  It's notable that this appears to be used to generate frontends that look more authentic than the typical AI generated site, not as a test for what's acceptable from a human contributor.
- matheusmoreira 2mo ago
  I suppose all the exotic unicode characters are dead now. Anything that's too annoying for a human to type but trivial for AI to generate is probably done for. I used to enjoy using those characters. Sigh.
  - brucehoult 2mo ago
    They have never been annoying to type on a Mac.
- brucehoult 2mo ago
  I've been posting my writing on the internet since 1990, from a Mac where we all learned how to make en and em dashes, umlauts, accents, degree symbols, proper single and double quotes, and so forth from Day #1 and I have absolutely no plans to stop using em dashes.
  - brookst 2mo ago
    Nice try, ChatGPT. Though I agree with GP: models and harnesses are being updated so hard to avoid any use of em-dashes that soon it will be a tell of human writing. The the pendulum will swing back and forth, forever.
postalcoder 2mo ago
All due respect to the YC folks, but having a skill with 22,069 tokens is a major skill issue. Yes, ironic. My slop control skill is a thousand tokens. Biggest problem I see with the skill is that everything is prompted via negativa. smh. sorry to be judgmental but it's hard to trust a harness that comes shipped with a skill like this.
- CuriouslyC 2mo ago
  The YC folks know engineering hype, not engineering. Most of them have been out of the game so long and focused on other things they've forgotten their fundamentals. You can hear this explicitly in shit Gary says in a lot of videos, it's directionally correct but detached from fundamentals.
- nylonstrung 2mo ago
  Gary is no Paul Graham, technically speaking
hmokiguess 2mo ago
According to the license, the source of it is actually this https://www.tasteskill.dev/ https://www.tasteskill.dev/ Which, in my opinion, feels like slop.
- ar_turnbull 2mo ago
  Also feels copied from impeccable.style (which I think was the original anti-slop skill).
bellowsgulch 2mo ago
They all use the same pill glowy status light header eyebrow to immediately tell you they have no actual design skills and follow the herd. Posers took over the industry.
throwatdem12311 2mo ago
lol this is hilarious - the “make no mistakes” of design You can’t prompt an agent to have taste.

thoughtpeddler 2mo ago

Doesn’t this just lead to a new “basin of tastelessness” that, sure, looks different from current slop, but is itself just eventually slop all the same?

namuol 2mo ago
So just an accelerated version of the standard UI design trends cycle (which is bad).
brianjking 2mo ago
Yes.

nojs 2mo ago

> Em-dash (—) is COMPLETELY banned. It is the LLM's signature stylistic crutch and it is the #1 visual Tell in production tests. There is no "limited use" allowance, no "natural language frequency" allowance, no "in body copy is fine" allowance. None. I guess the em dash is really dead.

dgunay 2mo ago
I have been seeing people use it more who I am fairly confident are not otherwise using AI to write public-facing communications. It's almost like there's a minor movement to try and reclaim it. Either that or it's somehow getting past my AIdar.
dlopes7 2mo ago
And yet they use it on the README
rpdillon 2mo ago
It's notable that this appears to be used to generate frontends that look more authentic than the typical AI generated site, not as a test for what's acceptable from a human contributor.
matheusmoreira 2mo ago
I suppose all the exotic unicode characters are dead now. Anything that's too annoying for a human to type but trivial for AI to generate is probably done for. I used to enjoy using those characters. Sigh.
- brucehoult 2mo ago
  They have never been annoying to type on a Mac.
brucehoult 2mo ago
I've been posting my writing on the internet since 1990, from a Mac where we all learned how to make en and em dashes, umlauts, accents, degree symbols, proper single and double quotes, and so forth from Day #1 and I have absolutely no plans to stop using em dashes.
- brookst 2mo ago
  Nice try, ChatGPT. Though I agree with GP: models and harnesses are being updated so hard to avoid any use of em-dashes that soon it will be a tell of human writing. The the pendulum will swing back and forth, forever.

postalcoder 2mo ago

All due respect to the YC folks, but having a skill with 22,069 tokens is a major skill issue. Yes, ironic. My slop control skill is a thousand tokens. Biggest problem I see with the skill is that everything is prompted via negativa. smh. sorry to be judgmental but it's hard to trust a harness that comes shipped with a skill like this.

CuriouslyC 2mo ago
The YC folks know engineering hype, not engineering. Most of them have been out of the game so long and focused on other things they've forgotten their fundamentals. You can hear this explicitly in shit Gary says in a lot of videos, it's directionally correct but detached from fundamentals.
nylonstrung 2mo ago
Gary is no Paul Graham, technically speaking

hmokiguess 2mo ago

According to the license, the source of it is actually this https://www.tasteskill.dev/ https://www.tasteskill.dev/ Which, in my opinion, feels like slop.

ar_turnbull 2mo ago
Also feels copied from impeccable.style (which I think was the original anti-slop skill).

bellowsgulch 2mo ago

They all use the same pill glowy status light header eyebrow to immediately tell you they have no actual design skills and follow the herd. Posers took over the industry.

throwatdem12311 2mo ago

lol this is hilarious - the “make no mistakes” of design You can’t prompt an agent to have taste.