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Batteries? Starting this year, in Romania you cannot put new PV capacity online without the storage for it, is mandatory. Possibly for existing ones, but I am

by ccozan 2mo ago

Batteries? Starting this year, in Romania you cannot put new PV capacity online without the storage for it, is mandatory. Possibly for existing ones, but I am not sure.

chpatrick 2mo ago
They're being installed but it's going to take a while.
- SiempreViernes 2mo ago
  Much faster than any nuclear build though.
  - chpatrick 2mo ago
    Sure, but it doesn't solve today's problem with the low Danube.
imoverclocked 2mo ago
Mechanical ones so we aren’t left with a waste disaster in 10-20 years?
ifwinterco 2mo ago
Yes, absolutely colossal amounts of batteries though - what if it’s quite hot but also cloudy for 5 days in a row? You either have to significantly oversize the PV (easier said than done, when its energy density is already not that high per m2), or have enough batteries to last for multiple days of full load. If you do the maths that’s a lot of batteries
- Kon5ole 2mo ago
  >what if it’s quite hot but also cloudy for 5 days in a row? The main idea is to then import power from somewhere sunny and/or windy or mountainous, using money you saved when they had the rain and you had the sun. Batteries and other storage mechanisms will gradually reduce the need for doing so, but aiming to entirely eliminate all need for cooperation with others seems a bit paranoid.
pojzon 2mo ago
In Poland you cannot own big capacity storage because it makes you independent from the grid and Gov does not want that. So you can have storage, but not too much, only as much to still be dependant on the grid. See the hypocrisy here?
- leonidasrup 2mo ago
  You are not allowed to have own PV and big capacity storage without connection to electric grid?
  - pojzon 2mo ago
    You cannot have big storage either way. Its normal to have two installations and be able to switch between them. Not in Poland, because you are too independent.
    - leonidasrup 2mo ago
      The legislation was updated: "According to the adopted act, devices with a capacity of up to 30 kWh are exempt from any construction procedures; only reporting to the grid operator (OSD) is mandatory. Those between 30 kWh and 300 kWh in a building and 30 kWh and 2000 kWh freestanding are obliged to prepare a land development plan and make fire safety arrangements." https://renewablesnow.com/news/poland-adopts-rules-to-ease-energy-storage-in-dialogue-with-industry-1284887/ https://renewablesnow.com/news/poland-adopts-rules-to-ease-e...

by ccozan 2mo ago

Batteries? Starting this year, in Romania you cannot put new PV capacity online without the storage for it, is mandatory. Possibly for existing ones, but I am not sure.

chpatrick 2mo ago

They're being installed but it's going to take a while.

SiempreViernes 2mo ago
Much faster than any nuclear build though.
- chpatrick 2mo ago
  Sure, but it doesn't solve today's problem with the low Danube.

imoverclocked 2mo ago

Mechanical ones so we aren’t left with a waste disaster in 10-20 years?

ifwinterco 2mo ago

Yes, absolutely colossal amounts of batteries though - what if it’s quite hot but also cloudy for 5 days in a row? You either have to significantly oversize the PV (easier said than done, when its energy density is already not that high per m2), or have enough batteries to last for multiple days of full load. If you do the maths that’s a lot of batteries

Kon5ole 2mo ago
>what if it’s quite hot but also cloudy for 5 days in a row? The main idea is to then import power from somewhere sunny and/or windy or mountainous, using money you saved when they had the rain and you had the sun. Batteries and other storage mechanisms will gradually reduce the need for doing so, but aiming to entirely eliminate all need for cooperation with others seems a bit paranoid.

pojzon 2mo ago

In Poland you cannot own big capacity storage because it makes you independent from the grid and Gov does not want that. So you can have storage, but not too much, only as much to still be dependant on the grid. See the hypocrisy here?

leonidasrup 2mo ago
You are not allowed to have own PV and big capacity storage without connection to electric grid?
- pojzon 2mo ago
  You cannot have big storage either way. Its normal to have two installations and be able to switch between them. Not in Poland, because you are too independent.
  - leonidasrup 2mo ago
    The legislation was updated: "According to the adopted act, devices with a capacity of up to 30 kWh are exempt from any construction procedures; only reporting to the grid operator (OSD) is mandatory. Those between 30 kWh and 300 kWh in a building and 30 kWh and 2000 kWh freestanding are obliged to prepare a land development plan and make fire safety arrangements." https://renewablesnow.com/news/poland-adopts-rules-to-ease-energy-storage-in-dialogue-with-industry-1284887/ https://renewablesnow.com/news/poland-adopts-rules-to-ease-e...