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Not all households are as dysfunctional as the ones you described. And there's a reason why trust and wealth planning has becoming increasingly common. And wh

Not all households are as dysfunctional as the ones you described. And there's a reason why trust and wealth planning has becoming increasingly common. And while I am optimistic about AI's capabilities and am by no means an AI Luddite, assuming AI will take all jobs in the near future is ludicrous.

cyanydeez 3mo ago
I think youre confusing "defacto" job loss and "replacement" job loss. Defacto job loss is: Your boss thinks you're replaceable with AI, and he fires you then puts the other workers implicitly responsible for your workload, _regardless of AI's capability. Replacement job loss: AI actually does 100% of your work load. Defacto jobloss is the insideous love child and will definitely accelerate because the "unwoke" mind virus rich people have that people are all replaceable, useless and "takers" as elon calls it. Workers will put up wiht it because they need a job under neofeudalism.
- alephnerd 3mo ago
  And that isn't how or why layoffs are happening as someone who has made those calls. AI is being used as a scapegoat, but a lot of this is just rightsizing of headcount as I've previously mentioned on HN. Right before GPT-4 we were using COVID as that scapegoat in 2023.
- hotelsacher 3mo ago
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Scubabear68 3mo ago
"Not all households are as dysfunctional as the ones you described". This comment of course needs to be taken in the context of HN. In the wider world, we have literal tens of millions of people in the United States who are in poverty and experience daily hunger and deprivation.
- loeg 3mo ago
  We do not have tens of millions of hungry people unless you're including being a bit peckish before lunch time.
  - jakeydus 3mo ago
    USDA says that 13.7% of US households experienced food insecurity in 2024 [0]. Extrapolate that against population and you get 47 million people. [0]: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-us/key-statistics-graphics https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/fo... EDIT since I can't reply to irish-coffee for some reason: nobody said literally starving, OP said experiencing hunger or deprivation.
    - irishcoffee 3mo ago
      > Food insecurity is the limited or uncertain access to enough safe, affordable, and nutritious food to live a healthy life. It means people do not know where their next meal will come from or cannot buy enough healthy food because they lack money or other resources Pretty big gap between literal starving and food insecurity.
      - mfro 3mo ago
        Pretty big gap in quality of life between people who have no worries about their next meal and those who have to stress over every one.
        aianus 3mo ago
        If you make $2000 and your rent is $1800 are you food insecure or rent insecure? This is a miscategorization imo, food is incredibly cheap compared to any American income or welfare program.
        mfro 3mo ago

cyanydeez 3mo ago

I think youre confusing "defacto" job loss and "replacement" job loss. Defacto job loss is: Your boss thinks you're replaceable with AI, and he fires you then puts the other workers implicitly responsible for your workload, _regardless of AI's capability. Replacement job loss: AI actually does 100% of your work load. Defacto jobloss is the insideous love child and will definitely accelerate because the "unwoke" mind virus rich people have that people are all replaceable, useless and "takers" as elon calls it. Workers will put up wiht it because they need a job under neofeudalism.

alephnerd 3mo ago
And that isn't how or why layoffs are happening as someone who has made those calls. AI is being used as a scapegoat, but a lot of this is just rightsizing of headcount as I've previously mentioned on HN. Right before GPT-4 we were using COVID as that scapegoat in 2023.
hotelsacher 3mo ago
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Scubabear68 3mo ago

"Not all households are as dysfunctional as the ones you described". This comment of course needs to be taken in the context of HN. In the wider world, we have literal tens of millions of people in the United States who are in poverty and experience daily hunger and deprivation.

loeg 3mo ago
We do not have tens of millions of hungry people unless you're including being a bit peckish before lunch time.
- jakeydus 3mo ago
  USDA says that 13.7% of US households experienced food insecurity in 2024 [0]. Extrapolate that against population and you get 47 million people. [0]: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-us/key-statistics-graphics https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/fo... EDIT since I can't reply to irish-coffee for some reason: nobody said literally starving, OP said experiencing hunger or deprivation.
  - irishcoffee 3mo ago
    > Food insecurity is the limited or uncertain access to enough safe, affordable, and nutritious food to live a healthy life. It means people do not know where their next meal will come from or cannot buy enough healthy food because they lack money or other resources Pretty big gap between literal starving and food insecurity.
    - mfro 3mo ago
      Pretty big gap in quality of life between people who have no worries about their next meal and those who have to stress over every one.
      - aianus 3mo ago
        If you make $2000 and your rent is $1800 are you food insecure or rent insecure? This is a miscategorization imo, food is incredibly cheap compared to any American income or welfare program.
        mfro 3mo ago