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In this case regretting it generally means stopping taking blockers and letting puberty progress as it would without the intervention. Puberty blockers give tim

by vextea 2mo ago

In this case regretting it generally means stopping taking blockers and letting puberty progress as it would without the intervention. Puberty blockers give time to assess if further intervention is needed later (such as hormone replacement therapy)

cubefox 2mo ago
That's not true. There was recently a woman who ended up with a masculinized body with apparently no room to revert the change.
- foco_tubi 2mo ago
  There was an old woman who lived in a shoe. She had so many children, she didn't know what to do. See, you can say literally anything without citing a source.
  - cubefox 2mo ago
    Interesting that you didn't say this to the previous commenter who also didn't provide a source for their claim. Anyway, here is what I was referring to: https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/x1j5t9/i_cant_live_like_this_anymore_but_i_dont_want_my/ https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/x1j5t9/i_cant_live...
    - foco_tubi 2mo ago
      Interesting that you apparently can’t distinguish between puberty blockers and HRT. When women use puberty blockers, it does not make them develop male traits. What’s even more interesting is that you value Reddit as a citable source. What other valuable resources have you used to inform your opinion?
      - cubefox 2mo ago
        Interesting that you apparently can't distinguish between children and women. If you think the Reddit report is fake, say so explicitly.
        foco_tubi 2mo ago
        Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Oof.
        cubefox 2mo ago
        > Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? They will fail to develop their respective sex-typical traits, which in turn is typical of the opposite sex. > Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Is there any reason to think the Reddit report is fake? If not, it is fine for me to refer to it. Besides, you were the one asking for a reference. Do you think she should have posted this to the arxiv? You are moving the goal posts.
        foco_tubi 2mo ago
        That’s not how puberty works. Delaying puberty doesn’t make a child develop the “opposite sex’s” puberty. A boy on puberty blockers doesn’t start growing breasts because of the blockers, and a girl doesn’t develop a deeper voice because of the blockers. Puberty blockers pause sex-hormone-driven development. They don’t replace testosterone with estrogen or vice versa. The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. I’m not implying that the single Reddit post you refer to is fake. I’m stating that relying on a single Reddit post as the basis of your entire argument is factually weak.
        cubefox 2mo ago
        > The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. It is, to a certain degree. An man/woman who didn't develop several of their respective sex traits will automatically appear more feminine/masculine because these are polar opposites.

by vextea 2mo ago

cubefox 2mo ago

That's not true. There was recently a woman who ended up with a masculinized body with apparently no room to revert the change.

foco_tubi 2mo ago
There was an old woman who lived in a shoe. She had so many children, she didn't know what to do. See, you can say literally anything without citing a source.
- cubefox 2mo ago
  Interesting that you didn't say this to the previous commenter who also didn't provide a source for their claim. Anyway, here is what I was referring to: https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/x1j5t9/i_cant_live_like_this_anymore_but_i_dont_want_my/ https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/x1j5t9/i_cant_live...
  - foco_tubi 2mo ago
    Interesting that you apparently can’t distinguish between puberty blockers and HRT. When women use puberty blockers, it does not make them develop male traits. What’s even more interesting is that you value Reddit as a citable source. What other valuable resources have you used to inform your opinion?
    - cubefox 2mo ago
      Interesting that you apparently can't distinguish between children and women. If you think the Reddit report is fake, say so explicitly.
      - foco_tubi 2mo ago
        Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Oof.
        cubefox 2mo ago
        > Are you saying you believe if children use puberty blockers they will develop male traits? They will fail to develop their respective sex-typical traits, which in turn is typical of the opposite sex. > Are you saying you would cite Reddit as a valid source? Is there any reason to think the Reddit report is fake? If not, it is fine for me to refer to it. Besides, you were the one asking for a reference. Do you think she should have posted this to the arxiv? You are moving the goal posts.
        foco_tubi 2mo ago
        That’s not how puberty works. Delaying puberty doesn’t make a child develop the “opposite sex’s” puberty. A boy on puberty blockers doesn’t start growing breasts because of the blockers, and a girl doesn’t develop a deeper voice because of the blockers. Puberty blockers pause sex-hormone-driven development. They don’t replace testosterone with estrogen or vice versa. The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. I’m not implying that the single Reddit post you refer to is fake. I’m stating that relying on a single Reddit post as the basis of your entire argument is factually weak.
        cubefox 2mo ago
        > The absence of masculinization is not feminization, and the absence of feminization is not masculinization. It is, to a certain degree. An man/woman who didn't develop several of their respective sex traits will automatically appear more feminine/masculine because these are polar opposites.