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> There is no reason to assume that we can't have the same kind of economy Has there been, in history, the same kind of economy we have today without fossil fu
by palata 2mo ago
> There is no reason to assume that we can't have the same kind of economy
Has there been, in history, the same kind of economy we have today without fossil fuels? No. That's a first reason.
Are there practical replacements for every use case of fossil fuels? Most definitely not! I don't know where you get that. For those replacements we know, it has never been done at scale, so we don't know if it's possible or not. And for those we don't know... well we don't know. Just have a look at what petrochemicals are used for. And how do you make fertilisers without fossil fuels, at today's scale?
- adrianN 2mo agoYou seem to believe that proof of feasibility is impossible before actually finishing the task. I disagree. And for the record, profit oriented market economies are extremely old. Much older than any large scale use of fossil fuels.
- palata 2mo ago> And for the record, profit oriented market economies are extremely old. Of course it works if you take the part that is convenient to your argument. What about globalised economies?
- adrianN 2mo agoTrade routes spanned Eurasia before we invented writing. Faster transportation and communication only expanded economic ties. Transportation is something that is fairly easy to do without fossil fuels.
- palata 2mo agoAgain, you conveniently forget the important part. Before we invented writing, we were not remotely transporting as much stuff as we are today. I mean, before fossil fuels, the world ran on renewables. But that's not at all a proof that we can easily go back to renewables: it was a different world then.