I don't agree with that though. I've written plugin systems for stuff I've worked on, and it didn't require nearly the same level of verbosity. Granted, I usua

I don't agree with that though. I've written plugin systems for stuff I've worked on, and it didn't require nearly the same level of verbosity. Granted, I usually have done this with sockets instead of directly using JVM and reflection. To each their own, but I like using sockets (usually ZeroMQ) for this stuff because then it's completely language independent. Even if I granted that you needed to use all this factory and builder glue stuff, I don't agree with the typical Java developer's strategy of breaking things up across a million files, which Java at least greatly encourages.