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The thing is, you don’t need to actually block usage to make something illegal. You make it so toxic that company wants to be seen publicly using open models
by dgellow 3mo ago
The thing is, you don’t need to actually block usage to make something illegal. You make it so toxic that company wants to be seen publicly using open models
- UltraSane 3mo agoCompanies would secretly use self-hosted models internally because it would give them a enormous cost advantage.
- dgellow 3mo agoSure, companies can indeed do illegal things
- UltraSane 3mo agoBut how would the actual weights it be made illegal without violating the 1st amendment?
- hgoel 3mo agoBy ignoring the 1st amendment? The US has a tendency of ignoring its constitution whenever it's convenient.
- UltraSane 3mo agoDon't be glib, the 1st amendment is taken VERY seriously.
- dgellow 3mo agoIm not sure if you’re joking or not. - the US strictly regulate cryptography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th... - some prime numbers are considered illegal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_primes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_primes I don’t think banning open weight is that far fetch compared to those
- UltraSane 3mo agoNeither of those worked very well.
- dgellow 3mo agoOk, but that’s a different thing altogether. I personally expect a ban, that doesn’t mean it will be very effective, but that does mean it will have a meaningful impact (such as not being able to offer open weight models as a service)