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Google Analytics has a new api currently in beta that is also called analytics.js. This will be confusing. https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/co

by dudus 14y ago

Google Analytics has a new api currently in beta that is also called analytics.js. This will be confusing. https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection/analyticsjs/ https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection...

karolisd 14y ago
Is that for the new Universal Analytics?
- dudus 14y ago
  Yes this is also known as Universal Analytics and has several new features more processing on the server rather than on client side and less cookies. It's pretty awesome by the way.
  - dudus 14y ago
    At some point segmentio's analytics.js will have to be update to use Google's analytics.js when it goes public and deprecates Google's ga.js.
Nagyman 14y ago
There's also Google Tag Manager. It's not itself an analytics script, but it provides a clean way to separate tags from code (one tag to rule them all). In addition, it's dataLayer acts as an intermediate store which any tag can access via macros in order to use the shared data. The SEM folks can (almost) manage the tags themselves once some rules are prepared. https://www.googletagmanager.com https://www.googletagmanager.com
- numbchuckskills 14y ago
  I was thinking the same thing
adamsfallen 14y ago
I could have sworn this was the same thing. Oh god.
ry0ohki 14y ago
Agreed. Please stick to the trend of a creative, whimsical, yet non-descriptive name, I recommend "SealFur.js".
- rhizome 14y ago
  too many vowels.
- javajosh 14y ago
  How about a reference to the Mayan Apocalypse: doomsday.js
- joevandyk 14y ago
  Honestly, that makes it super easy to search for.
- pud 14y ago
  How about shortening it to Anal.js (seriously, that would be a great name. and, ya know, in reference to being anal retentive. get your mind outta the gutter people.)
  - sgerrand 14y ago
    There's a typo on the README site that might indicate that they had similar ideas: `Google Analtyics`
  - munger 14y ago
    AnalTrack.js
  - deleted 14y ago
    [deleted]
- frozenport 14y ago
  I would like us to use a C++ like name mangaling convention like __1cGstrcpy6Fpcpkc_Analytics.js. In this way we will never confuse version numbers, with the added advantage to run several version concurrently. I recently purchased a CDN subscription for precisely this application.
dylanvee 14y ago
function(i, s, o, g, r, a, m) {...} How clever of them.
- riffraff 14y ago
  fwiw, I was actually annoyed that the function does not take that many arguments, if I am not missing something.
  - tach 14y ago
    The extra arguments are used as identifiers within the function. It's a common trick to save a few bytes since you get function scoped vars without needing the "var" keyword.
    - riffraff 14y ago
      yes but it's not needed in this case, they could have reused existing variables and since clarity is not a goal (given e.g. "s=document") it wouldn't be an issue.
randartie 14y ago
This project will definitely have bad luck when it comes to google search results.
saurik 14y ago
When I saw this Show HN, I actually assumed it was an article about the new Google Analytics offering. (In retrospect, I should have realized that wouldn't make sense as a Show HN.)
- Strshps1MoreTim 14y ago
  Unless it was posted by norvig, or one of the other Google employes here.
tripzilch 14y ago
true, but if it aggregates multiple services, it makes more sense to have a generic name like "analytics", than for a singular service to have that name just because it's Google. still, you're right that it will probably be confusing. edit: a reply below points out that it's hard to search for. that's actually a quite good reason why the author(s) might want to reconsider the name.

by dudus 14y ago

karolisd 14y ago

Is that for the new Universal Analytics?

dudus 14y ago
Yes this is also known as Universal Analytics and has several new features more processing on the server rather than on client side and less cookies. It's pretty awesome by the way.
- dudus 14y ago
  At some point segmentio's analytics.js will have to be update to use Google's analytics.js when it goes public and deprecates Google's ga.js.

Nagyman 14y ago

There's also Google Tag Manager. It's not itself an analytics script, but it provides a clean way to separate tags from code (one tag to rule them all). In addition, it's dataLayer acts as an intermediate store which any tag can access via macros in order to use the shared data. The SEM folks can (almost) manage the tags themselves once some rules are prepared. https://www.googletagmanager.com https://www.googletagmanager.com

numbchuckskills 14y ago
I was thinking the same thing

adamsfallen 14y ago

I could have sworn this was the same thing. Oh god.

ry0ohki 14y ago

Agreed. Please stick to the trend of a creative, whimsical, yet non-descriptive name, I recommend "SealFur.js".

rhizome 14y ago
too many vowels.
javajosh 14y ago
How about a reference to the Mayan Apocalypse: doomsday.js
joevandyk 14y ago
Honestly, that makes it super easy to search for.
pud 14y ago
How about shortening it to Anal.js (seriously, that would be a great name. and, ya know, in reference to being anal retentive. get your mind outta the gutter people.)
- sgerrand 14y ago
  There's a typo on the README site that might indicate that they had similar ideas: `Google Analtyics`
- munger 14y ago
  AnalTrack.js
- deleted 14y ago
  [deleted]
frozenport 14y ago
I would like us to use a C++ like name mangaling convention like __1cGstrcpy6Fpcpkc_Analytics.js. In this way we will never confuse version numbers, with the added advantage to run several version concurrently. I recently purchased a CDN subscription for precisely this application.

dylanvee 14y ago

function(i, s, o, g, r, a, m) {...} How clever of them.

riffraff 14y ago
fwiw, I was actually annoyed that the function does not take that many arguments, if I am not missing something.
- tach 14y ago
  The extra arguments are used as identifiers within the function. It's a common trick to save a few bytes since you get function scoped vars without needing the "var" keyword.
  - riffraff 14y ago
    yes but it's not needed in this case, they could have reused existing variables and since clarity is not a goal (given e.g. "s=document") it wouldn't be an issue.

randartie 14y ago

This project will definitely have bad luck when it comes to google search results.

saurik 14y ago

When I saw this Show HN, I actually assumed it was an article about the new Google Analytics offering. (In retrospect, I should have realized that wouldn't make sense as a Show HN.)

Strshps1MoreTim 14y ago
Unless it was posted by norvig, or one of the other Google employes here.

tripzilch 14y ago

true, but if it aggregates multiple services, it makes more sense to have a generic name like "analytics", than for a singular service to have that name just because it's Google. still, you're right that it will probably be confusing. edit: a reply below points out that it's hard to search for. that's actually a quite good reason why the author(s) might want to reconsider the name.