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A thinking press?

by dev0p 2mo ago

A thinking press?

palmotea 2mo ago
> A thinking press? Soon you won't be doing anything. At best you'll just be a bag of meat attached to automated processes you don't understand in order to take legal liability for it. Literally a scapegoat, except of a different species.
- nntwozz 2mo ago
  WALL-E captured this sentiment.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    What was the scapegoating in WALL-E?
  - Izkata 2mo ago
    The Whispering Earring might be closer: https://croissanthology.com/earring https://croissanthology.com/earring
- skinfaxi 2mo ago
  That would be an interesting legal case. I would expect it to lead to negligence on the part of the employer for lack of training, etc rather than attach to the employee pressing the button.
  - TeMPOraL 2mo ago
    You get paid for having liability attach to you. Soon it may be the only thing you could be paid for.
    - skinfaxi 2mo ago
      Are employees usually liable for process-related issues? Like individual employees weren't liable for dispensing too-hot coffee but McDonalds was liable. Or how cops aren't liable in their individual capacity if it was a failure of training, etc.
      - palmotea 2mo ago
        It may not even legal liability, just blame. For instance: give John the job of monitoring the HR AI so it isn't racist. To do that he needs to do impossible task of checking 10,000 automated resume evaluation decisions per day. No one can do that, so eventually he just approves them all. Then if the system is determined to be super racist, you proceed to blame it on John, and fire him for being negligent and not doing his job. You put out a press release, and hire Steve into John's role. Your decisive actions show you're taking the problem seriously and the company isn't to blame.
    - ben_w 2mo ago
      As is so often the case SMBC has already got a comic for this. I sincerely regard Zach Weinersmith (and also separately Randall Munroe) as two of the most pertinent voices in modern philosophy. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/blame https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/blame
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Your job description won't say scapegoat - that would be too obvious. It'll be more like how Amazon drivers are forced to piss in jugs while driving.

A thinking press?

by dev0p 2mo ago

A thinking press?

> A thinking press? Soon you won't be doing anything. At best you'll just be a bag of meat attached to automated processes you don't understand in order to take legal liability for it. Literally a scapegoat, except of a different species.

nntwozz 2mo ago
WALL-E captured this sentiment.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  What was the scapegoating in WALL-E?
- Izkata 2mo ago
  The Whispering Earring might be closer: https://croissanthology.com/earring https://croissanthology.com/earring
skinfaxi 2mo ago
That would be an interesting legal case. I would expect it to lead to negligence on the part of the employer for lack of training, etc rather than attach to the employee pressing the button.
- TeMPOraL 2mo ago
  You get paid for having liability attach to you. Soon it may be the only thing you could be paid for.
  - skinfaxi 2mo ago
    Are employees usually liable for process-related issues? Like individual employees weren't liable for dispensing too-hot coffee but McDonalds was liable. Or how cops aren't liable in their individual capacity if it was a failure of training, etc.
    - palmotea 2mo ago
      It may not even legal liability, just blame. For instance: give John the job of monitoring the HR AI so it isn't racist. To do that he needs to do impossible task of checking 10,000 automated resume evaluation decisions per day. No one can do that, so eventually he just approves them all. Then if the system is determined to be super racist, you proceed to blame it on John, and fire him for being negligent and not doing his job. You put out a press release, and hire Steve into John's role. Your decisive actions show you're taking the problem seriously and the company isn't to blame.
  - ben_w 2mo ago
    As is so often the case SMBC has already got a comic for this. I sincerely regard Zach Weinersmith (and also separately Randall Munroe) as two of the most pertinent voices in modern philosophy. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/blame https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/blame
- inigyou 2mo ago
  Your job description won't say scapegoat - that would be too obvious. It'll be more like how Amazon drivers are forced to piss in jugs while driving.