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By making companies using them "toxic" to touch. For example: no government contract to any company who uses even one vendor in it's entire chain of dependenci
by freakynit 2mo ago
By making companies using them "toxic" to touch.
For example: no government contract to any company who uses even one vendor in it's entire chain of dependencies, who uses such open models.
They can extend this further by laying more conditions, such as: any company dealing in this-this field can only use models "officially" approved as "safe". Rest you can guess how easy it would be to get that "safe" rating for such open models.
- tyfon 2mo agoSo now the US companies will be stuck on expensive models while the rest of the world can do things much more cost effective. I'm not sure the outcome would be beneficial for the US as a whole here. But perhaps that is not their priority.
- freakynit 2mo agoThere are many proxy-ways to bypass such restrictions. Of course, the costs will be higher. Providers will spun-up.
- qphe95 2mo agoCan't wait to distill Deepseek v4 flash to America-1
- UltraSane 2mo agoCompanies could self-host models in secret. It would be hard to stop.
- freakynit 2mo agoNot legally. Liability is a big thing.
- dgellow 2mo agoThe thing is, you don’t need to actually block usage to make something illegal. You make it so toxic that company wants to be seen publicly using open models
- UltraSane 2mo agoCompanies would secretly use self-hosted models internally because it would give them a enormous cost advantage.
- dgellow 2mo agoSure, companies can indeed do illegal things
- UltraSane 2mo agoBut how would the actual weights it be made illegal without violating the 1st amendment?
- hgoel 2mo agoBy ignoring the 1st amendment? The US has a tendency of ignoring its constitution whenever it's convenient.
- UltraSane 2mo agoDon't be glib, the 1st amendment is taken VERY seriously.
- dgellow 2mo agoIm not sure if you’re joking or not. - the US strictly regulate cryptography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th... - some prime numbers are considered illegal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_primes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_primes I don’t think banning open weight is that far fetch compared to those
- UltraSane 2mo ago
- nancyminusone 2mo agoSome contractors are already barred from using Claude due to DoD designation back in March as a "supply chain risk"