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The UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union. Wish people would distinguish between the two. (I was a Remainer by the way!!!)

JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
> UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union Both sides have a point. The UK rejected Europe, the cultural entity best represented by the EU, with Brexit. It's still on the Eurasian tectonic plate. But that isn't how we define continents.
- cucumber3732842 3mo ago
  Europe is Shrodiger's continent. It's western boundary could be the english channel or Icleand. It's eastern boundary could be the Oder or the Urals. You don't actually know where it begins and ends until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against.
  - JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
    > until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against It's a cultural description. It's obviously going to depend on collective senses of, well, collectiveness. Most Americans didn't think of themselves as American until after the Civil War.
  - nephihaha 3mo ago
    The eastern boundary runs through Istanbul (which is quite distinct), the Dardanelles and Bosphorus and thence up the Urals. The western boundary would be around the shores of Scotland and Ireland. There are some outlying islands such as the Azores, Iceland, the Faroes etc associated for cultural and political reasons. I would say Cyprus, not Iceland, is the real anomaly. Much as I like Iceland, it is an outlier in every sense of the word. I know some people argue that Europe is geographically Asia. Personally I would have divided Asia up into at least three continents.
    - cucumber3732842 3mo ago
      >The eastern boundary runs through Istanbul (which is quite distinct), the Dardanelles and Bosphorus and thence up the Urals. >The western boundary would be around the shores of Scotland and Ireland. There are some outlying islands such as the Azores, Iceland, the Faroes etc associated for cultural and political reasons. Yes, that's what the maps and textbooks say of course. And I don't disagree with you. But if you look at how it's actually used in online discourse it's clearly a much more fluid definition based around whatever is of most use to who's invoking it.

JumpCrisscross 3mo ago

> UK still is in Europe, but it is not in the European Union Both sides have a point. The UK rejected Europe, the cultural entity best represented by the EU, with Brexit. It's still on the Eurasian tectonic plate. But that isn't how we define continents.

cucumber3732842 3mo ago
Europe is Shrodiger's continent. It's western boundary could be the english channel or Icleand. It's eastern boundary could be the Oder or the Urals. You don't actually know where it begins and ends until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against.
- JumpCrisscross 3mo ago
  > until you know what policy position you're trying to mislead people into being for against It's a cultural description. It's obviously going to depend on collective senses of, well, collectiveness. Most Americans didn't think of themselves as American until after the Civil War.
- nephihaha 3mo ago
  The eastern boundary runs through Istanbul (which is quite distinct), the Dardanelles and Bosphorus and thence up the Urals. The western boundary would be around the shores of Scotland and Ireland. There are some outlying islands such as the Azores, Iceland, the Faroes etc associated for cultural and political reasons. I would say Cyprus, not Iceland, is the real anomaly. Much as I like Iceland, it is an outlier in every sense of the word. I know some people argue that Europe is geographically Asia. Personally I would have divided Asia up into at least three continents.
  - cucumber3732842 3mo ago
    >The eastern boundary runs through Istanbul (which is quite distinct), the Dardanelles and Bosphorus and thence up the Urals. >The western boundary would be around the shores of Scotland and Ireland. There are some outlying islands such as the Azores, Iceland, the Faroes etc associated for cultural and political reasons. Yes, that's what the maps and textbooks say of course. And I don't disagree with you. But if you look at how it's actually used in online discourse it's clearly a much more fluid definition based around whatever is of most use to who's invoking it.